David Y. Samuels v. The Concorde Condominium Home Owners Association

Case Summary

Case ID 24F-H025-REL
Agency ADRE
Tribunal OAH
Decision Date 2024-04-18
Administrative Law Judge Amy M. Haley
Outcome The petition filed by David Y. Samuels against The Concorde Condominium Home Owners Association was dismissed. The Tribunal found that Samuels lacked standing to bring the action as an individual, and the cited statute, A.R.S. § 33-1803 (Planned Community Act), was improper for this condominium dispute.
Filing Fees Refunded $0.00
Civil Penalties $0.00

Parties & Counsel

Petitioner David Y. Samuels Counsel
Respondent The Concorde Condominium Home Owners Association Counsel Ashley N. Turner

Alleged Violations

A.R.S. § 33-1803

Outcome Summary

The petition filed by David Y. Samuels against The Concorde Condominium Home Owners Association was dismissed. The Tribunal found that Samuels lacked standing to bring the action as an individual, and the cited statute, A.R.S. § 33-1803 (Planned Community Act), was improper for this condominium dispute.

Why this result: Petitioner lacked standing because the property was owned by Daso Properties, LLC, not by David Y. Samuels individually. Additionally, the Petitioner brought the action under the incorrect statute, A.R.S. § 33-1803, which governs planned communities, not condominiums.

Key Issues & Findings

Alleged violation concerning late fees, collection fees, and attorney fees for delinquent assessment payments

Petitioner alleged Respondent violated A.R.S. § 33-1803 by charging unwarranted late fees, collection fees, and attorney fees for delinquent assessments.

Orders: Petitioner's petition is dismissed because Petitioner lacked standing as an individual owner, and the cause of action was brought under the improper statute (Planned Community Act) for a condominium property.

Filing fee: $0.00, Fee refunded: No

Disposition: respondent_win

Cited:

  • A.R.S. § 33-1803
  • A.R.S. § 32-2199.01(A)
  • A.R.S. § 33-1801(A)
  • A.R.S. § 32-2199 et seq.
  • A.R.S. § 41-1092.09

Analytics Highlights

Topics: standing, condominium, planned community act, statutory violation, late fees, collection fees, attorney fees, jurisdiction, dismissal
Additional Citations:

  • A.R.S. § 33-1803
  • A.R.S. § 32-2199.01(A)
  • A.R.S. § 33-1801(A)
  • A.R.S. § 32-2199 et seq.
  • A.R.S. § 41-1092.09
  • A.A.C. R2-19-106(D)

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This summary outlines the proceedings, arguments, and final decision in the matter of *David Y. Samuels vs The Concorde Condominium Home Owners Association*, Case No. 24F-H025-REL, heard before Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) Amy M. Haley of the Office of Administrative Hearings (OAH).

Key Facts and Background

The case concerned a dispute over fees, fines, and assessments related to a condominium unit located in Mesa, Arizona. The property owner is Daso Properties, LLC, and the Petitioner, David Y. Samuels, is the managing member who filed the petition on his own behalf. The Respondent is The Concorde Condominium Home Owners Association (HOA). Samuels filed the petition with the Arizona Department of Real Estate (Department) around November 1, 2023, alleging the HOA violated A.R.S. § 33-1803 by charging late fees, collection fees, and attorney fees without documentation demonstrating they were warranted.

Hearing Proceedings and Key Arguments (April 3, 2024)

The hearing focused heavily on the status of the homeowner ledger and procedural issues.

Petitioner's Argument: Mr. Samuels argued that the HOA’s collection efforts were unethical or illegal. He contended that many of the late fees, collection fees, and attorney fees stemmed from a prior balance of $931.95 that was later forgiven or waived because the HOA or prior management companies could not provide documentation to support the charge. He argued that if the unsupported prior balance was removed, he was current (or even ahead) on assessments until 2024, rendering the substantial collection fees unreasonable. Additionally, fines totaling $1,645 were waved, which Samuels asserted was due to the charges being erroneous, not a "good faith gesture".

Respondent's Argument: The HOA, represented by counsel Ashley Turner, denied any statutory violation and asserted that the association was authorized to collect late fees and collection charges due to a delinquency that existed when the matter was referred for collections. More critically, the HOA raised two procedural arguments:

  1. Improper Statute: The HOA is a condominium association, governed by A.R.S. Title 33, Chapter 9, yet the petition was brought under A.R.S. § 33-1803, which governs planned communities.
  2. Lack of Standing: Mr. Samuels, as an individual, was not the legal "owner" of the unit (Daso Properties, LLC), and therefore lacked standing to bring the petition under A.R.S. § 32-2199.01(A).

Legal Outcome and Final Decision

The ALJ issued a decision on April 18, 2024, finding that the Petitioner failed to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that the Respondent violated A.R.S. § 33-1803.

The petition was dismissed based on two fundamental legal flaws:

  1. Lack of Standing: The Tribunal found that David Y. Samuels, as an individual and not the property owner (Daso Properties, LLC), did not have standing to bring the action under A.R.S. § 32-2199.01(A).
  2. Improper Cause of Action: The Tribunal found that the statute cited, A.R.S. § 33-1803, was improper because the property is a condominium, not a planned community, meaning the Respondent was not subject to that chapter. Consequently, Petitioner stated no claim upon which relief could be granted under the cited statute.

The petition was ordered dismissed.

Questions

Question

If my property is owned by an LLC, can I file a petition against the HOA in my own name as the managing member?

Short Answer

No. The petition must be filed by the legal owner (the LLC), not an individual member, or it will be dismissed for lack of standing.

Detailed Answer

The ALJ determined that an individual managing member of an LLC does not have standing to bring an action on behalf of the property owned by the LLC. The dispute statute specifically applies to 'owners' and 'associations'.

Alj Quote

The Tribunal finds that, after taking testimony, Petitioner, as an individual, did not have standing to bring this action… The proper party to bring the action would have been Daso Properties, LLC.

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 32-2199.01(A)

Topic Tags

  • standing
  • LLC ownership
  • procedural requirements

Question

Can I use laws meant for Planned Communities (A.R.S. § 33-1803) to dispute charges if I live in a Condominium?

Short Answer

No. Condominiums are governed by a different set of statutes (Chapter 9) than Planned Communities (Chapter 16).

Detailed Answer

The ALJ dismissed the claim because the homeowner cited the Planned Community Act (A.R.S. § 33-1803) while the property was legally a condominium. Condominiums are not subject to the Planned Community Act.

Alj Quote

However, the Property is a condominium; therefore, Respondent is not subject to the Planned Community Act. … Chapter 9 governs condominiums.

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 33-1801(A)

Topic Tags

  • jurisdiction
  • condominium vs planned community
  • statutory application

Question

Does the Department of Real Estate have jurisdiction to hear a dispute if I am not the legal owner of the property?

Short Answer

No. The Department's jurisdiction is limited to disputes specifically between an owner and an association.

Detailed Answer

The decision clarifies that the administrative hearing process is strictly for disputes involving an 'owner' or 'association'. If the petitioner is not the legal owner (even if they manage the LLC that owns it), the Department lacks jurisdiction.

Alj Quote

The department does not have jurisdiction to hear a dispute that does not involve an owner or an association.

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 32-2199.01(A)

Topic Tags

  • jurisdiction
  • standing
  • homeowner rights

Question

Who has the burden of proof when a homeowner claims an HOA violated state laws?

Short Answer

The homeowner (Petitioner) has the burden of proving the violation by a preponderance of the evidence.

Detailed Answer

In these administrative hearings, it is the responsibility of the person bringing the complaint to provide sufficient evidence to prove their claims.

Alj Quote

In this proceeding, Petitioner bears the burden of proving by a preponderance of the evidence that Respondent violated A.R.S. § 33-1803 as alleged in his petition.

Legal Basis

Preponderance of Evidence

Topic Tags

  • burden of proof
  • evidence
  • legal standards

Question

What happens if I base my entire petition on a statute that doesn't apply to my type of property?

Short Answer

The petition will be dismissed because you have stated no claim upon which relief can be granted.

Detailed Answer

Because the petitioner cited the wrong statute (Planned Community Act for a Condominium), the judge ruled that there was no valid legal claim to rule on, resulting in dismissal.

Alj Quote

As such, Petitioner has stated no claim upon which relief can be granted under A.R.S. § 33-1801.

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 33-1801

Topic Tags

  • dismissal
  • legal procedure
  • condominium act

Case

Docket No
24F-H025-REL
Case Title
David Y. Samuels vs The Concorde Condominium Home Owners Association
Decision Date
2024-04-18
Alj Name
Amy M. Haley
Tribunal
OAH
Agency
ADRE

Questions

Question

If my property is owned by an LLC, can I file a petition against the HOA in my own name as the managing member?

Short Answer

No. The petition must be filed by the legal owner (the LLC), not an individual member, or it will be dismissed for lack of standing.

Detailed Answer

The ALJ determined that an individual managing member of an LLC does not have standing to bring an action on behalf of the property owned by the LLC. The dispute statute specifically applies to 'owners' and 'associations'.

Alj Quote

The Tribunal finds that, after taking testimony, Petitioner, as an individual, did not have standing to bring this action… The proper party to bring the action would have been Daso Properties, LLC.

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 32-2199.01(A)

Topic Tags

  • standing
  • LLC ownership
  • procedural requirements

Question

Can I use laws meant for Planned Communities (A.R.S. § 33-1803) to dispute charges if I live in a Condominium?

Short Answer

No. Condominiums are governed by a different set of statutes (Chapter 9) than Planned Communities (Chapter 16).

Detailed Answer

The ALJ dismissed the claim because the homeowner cited the Planned Community Act (A.R.S. § 33-1803) while the property was legally a condominium. Condominiums are not subject to the Planned Community Act.

Alj Quote

However, the Property is a condominium; therefore, Respondent is not subject to the Planned Community Act. … Chapter 9 governs condominiums.

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 33-1801(A)

Topic Tags

  • jurisdiction
  • condominium vs planned community
  • statutory application

Question

Does the Department of Real Estate have jurisdiction to hear a dispute if I am not the legal owner of the property?

Short Answer

No. The Department's jurisdiction is limited to disputes specifically between an owner and an association.

Detailed Answer

The decision clarifies that the administrative hearing process is strictly for disputes involving an 'owner' or 'association'. If the petitioner is not the legal owner (even if they manage the LLC that owns it), the Department lacks jurisdiction.

Alj Quote

The department does not have jurisdiction to hear a dispute that does not involve an owner or an association.

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 32-2199.01(A)

Topic Tags

  • jurisdiction
  • standing
  • homeowner rights

Question

Who has the burden of proof when a homeowner claims an HOA violated state laws?

Short Answer

The homeowner (Petitioner) has the burden of proving the violation by a preponderance of the evidence.

Detailed Answer

In these administrative hearings, it is the responsibility of the person bringing the complaint to provide sufficient evidence to prove their claims.

Alj Quote

In this proceeding, Petitioner bears the burden of proving by a preponderance of the evidence that Respondent violated A.R.S. § 33-1803 as alleged in his petition.

Legal Basis

Preponderance of Evidence

Topic Tags

  • burden of proof
  • evidence
  • legal standards

Question

What happens if I base my entire petition on a statute that doesn't apply to my type of property?

Short Answer

The petition will be dismissed because you have stated no claim upon which relief can be granted.

Detailed Answer

Because the petitioner cited the wrong statute (Planned Community Act for a Condominium), the judge ruled that there was no valid legal claim to rule on, resulting in dismissal.

Alj Quote

As such, Petitioner has stated no claim upon which relief can be granted under A.R.S. § 33-1801.

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 33-1801

Topic Tags

  • dismissal
  • legal procedure
  • condominium act

Case

Docket No
24F-H025-REL
Case Title
David Y. Samuels vs The Concorde Condominium Home Owners Association
Decision Date
2024-04-18
Alj Name
Amy M. Haley
Tribunal
OAH
Agency
ADRE

Case Participants

Petitioner Side

  • David Y. Samuels (petitioner)
    Daso Properties, LLC
    Managing member of the property owner (Daso Properties, LLC); Appeared on his own behalf.

Respondent Side

  • Ashley N. Turner (HOA attorney)
    Goodman Law Group
    Council for respondent; Also appeared as Ashley N. Moscarello in earlier filings.
  • Alyssa Butler (community manager)
    The Management Trust (TMT)
    Witness for the association.
  • Stephanie Beck (HOA staff)
    Involved in prior HOA correspondence regarding fines.
  • Catherine Green (HOA staff)
    Involved in prior HOA correspondence regarding fines.

Neutral Parties

  • Amy M. Haley (ALJ)
    OAH
    Conducted the hearing and issued the final decision.
  • Susan Nicolson (Commissioner)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
  • Tammy L. Eigenheer (ALJ)
    OAH
    Issued an order on March 19, 2024.
  • A. Hansen (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
    Recipient of transmission via email [email protected].
  • V. Nunez (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
    Recipient of transmission via email [email protected].
  • D. Jones (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
    Recipient of transmission via email [email protected].
  • L. Abril (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
    Recipient of transmission via email [email protected].
  • M. Neat (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
    Recipient of transmission via email [email protected].
  • A. Kowaleski (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
    Recipient of transmission via email [email protected].
  • G. Osborn (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
    Recipient of transmission via email [email protected].

ROBERT J. GARING v. PRESCOTT LAKES COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, INC.

Case Summary

Case ID 24F-H012-REL
Agency ADRE
Tribunal OAH
Decision Date 2023-11-20
Administrative Law Judge Jenna Clark
Outcome The ALJ denied the petition, concluding that the Association's voting system constituted permissible delegate voting, which is not prohibited by the Planned Community Act. The prohibition in ARS § 33-1812 against proxy voting applies only when votes are “allocated to a unit,” which is not the case for Director elections where votes are allocated to the Neighborhood Voting Members as delegates.
Filing Fees Refunded $500.00
Civil Penalties $0.00

Parties & Counsel

Petitioner Robert J. Garing Counsel
Respondent Prescott Lakes Community Association, Inc. Counsel Adrianne A. Speas, Esq.

Alleged Violations

ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1812

Outcome Summary

The ALJ denied the petition, concluding that the Association's voting system constituted permissible delegate voting, which is not prohibited by the Planned Community Act. The prohibition in ARS § 33-1812 against proxy voting applies only when votes are “allocated to a unit,” which is not the case for Director elections where votes are allocated to the Neighborhood Voting Members as delegates.

Why this result: Petitioner did not sustain the burden of proving a violation of ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1812.

Key Issues & Findings

Whether Respondent is in violation of ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1812

Petitioner alleged that the Association's use of a voting delegate system, where Voting Members cast votes for unit owners who did not respond to neighborhood polls, constitutes proxy voting prohibited under ARS § 33-1812.

Orders: Petitioner's petition is denied.

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: No

Disposition: respondent_win

Cited:

  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1812
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 10-3708
  • ARIZ. ADMIN. CODE R2-19-119(B)(2)

Analytics Highlights

Topics: HOA, Planned Community Act, Delegate Voting, Proxy Voting, Board Election, ARS 33-1812, Nonprofit Corporation Act
Additional Citations:

  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1812
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 32-2199.05
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 32-2199.02
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 41-1092 et seq.
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 10-3708
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 1-211(B)
  • ARIZ. ADMIN. CODE R2-19-119(B)(2)
  • Tierra Ranchos Homeowners Ass'n v. Kitchukov

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This legal case summary details the hearing regarding the alleged violation of Arizona law concerning proxy voting within a planned community association.

Key Facts and Parties

The hearing was held on November 9, 2023, before Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) Jenna Clark. The matter involved Robert J. Garing (Petitioner), appearing on his own behalf, against Prescott Lakes Community Association, Inc. (Respondent), a nonprofit homeowners' association.

The Association utilizes a neighborhood delegate voting system. Unit owners elect a Voting Member (and an alternate) for their respective neighborhoods. The Voting Members then cast all votes for the election of the Association's Board of Directors. Prior to the election, unit owners are polled. The governing documents stipulate that the Voting Member "shall cast the votes attributable to any Units not responding to the poll in his or her discretion".

Main Issue

The underlying issue was whether the Respondent was in violation of Arizona Revised Statute (ARS) § 33-1812 of the Planned Communities Act. Petitioner alleged that when Voting Members vote on behalf of units whose owners did not return a poll, this practice is a form of proxy voting, which ARS § 33-1812 prohibits.

Key Arguments

  1. Petitioner's Argument: Petitioner argued that the delegate voting system is fundamentally a proxy system. He asserted that ARS § 33-1812 contains "clear, unambiguous" language prohibiting all proxies after the period of declarant control, and this special statute supersedes the general Nonprofit Corporations Act. Petitioner presented evidence showing that Voting Members exercised their discretion to cast zero votes for candidates who had received votes from polled unit owners, demonstrating a lack of correlation between member preference and the delegate’s vote.
  2. Respondent's Argument: Respondent argued that its system constitutes permissible delegate voting, which is distinct from the prohibited proxy voting. Testimony established that Voting Members are elected by the unit owners, not appointed like proxies, and cast votes by ballot, not proxy. Counsel for Respondent argued that the legislature chose only to prohibit proxy voting in the Planned Communities Act, and did not bar the use of delegate voting, which is allowed under the Nonprofit Corporation Act.

Legal Focus and Outcome

The ALJ focused on the language of ARS § 33-1812(A)(7), which prohibits casting "votes allocated to a unit… pursuant to a proxy".

The ALJ issued a decision denying the petition. The conclusion was that Petitioner failed to sustain the burden of proof. The key legal determination was that the legislature "made no such bar regarding delegate voting as a form of HOA governance" within the Planned Community Act.

The ALJ reasoned that for the election of Board Directors, there are no votes "allocated to a unit"; instead, "all votes are allocated to Neighborhood Voting Members as delegates" under the Association's governing documents. Since the statute prohibits proxy voting only when votes are allocated to a unit, the Association's delegate system for director elections did not violate ARS § 33-1812.

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Prescott Lakes Community Association, Inc.”, “decision_date”: “2023-11-20”, “alj_name”: “Jenna Clark”, “tribunal”: “OAH”, “agency”: “ADRE” }, “questions”: [ { “question”: “Is a delegate voting system considered the same as illegal proxy voting in Arizona HOAs?”, “short_answer”: “No. The ALJ determined that a delegate voting system is distinct from proxy voting and is not prohibited by the Planned Communities Act.”, “detailed_answer”: “While Arizona law (A.R.S. § 33-1812) explicitly prohibits proxy voting in planned communities after the period of declarant control, the Administrative Law Judge found that the legislature did not prohibit ‘delegate voting.’ In a delegate system, votes are allocated to the elected Voting Member (delegate) rather than directly to the individual unit for that specific election, meaning the prohibition on casting unit votes via proxy does not apply.”, “alj_quote”: “Here, the relevant and credible evidence of record establishes that while proxy voting is explicitly prohibited under the Planned Community Act, the legislature made no such bar regarding delegate voting as a form of HOA governance.”, “legal_basis”: “A.R.S. § 33-1812”, “topic_tags”: [ “voting”, “proxies”, “delegates”, “elections” ] }, { “question”: “Can my HOA allow neighborhood representatives to vote on behalf of owners?”, “short_answer”: “Yes, if the governing documents establish a delegate system where votes are allocated to the representative rather than the unit.”, “detailed_answer”: “The decision upholds a system where neighborhoods elect ‘Voting Members’ who then cast votes for the Board of Directors. 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Instead, it prohibits proxy voting when votes have been ‘allocated to a unit.’ Regarding the election of Board Directors, there are no votes ‘allocated to a unit.’ Instead, all votes are allocated to Neighborhood Voting Members as delegates…”, “legal_basis”: “A.R.S. § 33-1812”, “topic_tags”: [ “voting”, “board of directors”, “governing documents” ] }, { “question”: “Can neighborhood delegates cast votes for homeowners who did not participate in the poll?”, “short_answer”: “Yes, provided the governing documents allow the delegate to cast unreceived votes at their discretion.”, “detailed_answer”: “The ALJ noted that Voting Members in this case had the discretion to cast votes for units that did not respond to the neighborhood poll. This practice was found not to violate the statutory prohibition on proxies because it was part of a valid delegate voting structure.”, “alj_quote”: “Voting Members do not have complete discretion when casting votes. They only have discretion to cast unreceived votes.”, “legal_basis”: “A.R.S. § 33-1812”, “topic_tags”: [ “voting”, “discretionary voting”, “absentee ballots” ] }, { “question”: “What is the burden of proof for a homeowner challenging their HOA in an administrative hearing?”, “short_answer”: “The homeowner must prove their case by a ‘preponderance of the evidence’.”, “detailed_answer”: “The homeowner (Petitioner) is responsible for proving that the HOA violated the statute. The standard used is ‘preponderance of the evidence,’ which means the homeowner must show that their contention is more likely true than not.”, “alj_quote”: “In this proceeding, Petitioner bears the burden of proving by a preponderance of the evidence that Respondent violated ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1812.”, “legal_basis”: “A.A.C. R2-19-119(B)(2)”, “topic_tags”: [ “burden of proof”, “administrative hearing”, “legal procedure” ] }, { “question”: “Does the Nonprofit Corporation Act apply to HOAs in Arizona?”, “short_answer”: “Yes, unless the Planned Communities Act specifically exempts the HOA from a provision.”, “detailed_answer”: “The ALJ reasoned that because the legislature specifically exempted planned communities from some parts of the Nonprofit Act but was silent on delegate voting, the Nonprofit Act’s allowance of such systems remains relevant context for HOA governance.”, “alj_quote”: “In fact, the legislature specifically exempted planned communities from certain enumerated provisions of the Nonprofit Act, but did not address delegate voting within the Planned Community Act in any capacity.”, “legal_basis”: “A.R.S. § 10-3101 et seq.”, “topic_tags”: [ “corporate law”, “statutory interpretation”, “nonprofit act” ] }, { “question”: “If I disagree with the Administrative Law Judge’s decision, what can I do?”, “short_answer”: “You can appeal to the Superior Court within 35 days of being served the order.”, “detailed_answer”: “The decision is binding, but parties have the right to seek judicial review. This appeal must be filed with the Superior Court within a strict 35-day window following the service of the order.”, “alj_quote”: “A party wishing to appeal this order must seek judicial review as prescribed by ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 41-1092.08(H) and title 12, chapter 7, article 6. Any such appeal must be filed with the superior court within thirty-five days from the date when a copy of this order was served upon the parties.”, “legal_basis”: “A.R.S. § 41-1092.08(H); A.R.S. § 12-904(A)”, “topic_tags”: [ “appeals”, “judicial review”, “superior court” ] } ] }

Case Participants

Petitioner Side

  • Robert J. Garing (petitioner)
    Prescott Lakes Community Association, Inc. member
    Also served as alternate Voting Member for 2 years
  • James Thomas Joan (witness)
    Also listed as Jimmy Yiannis

Respondent Side

  • Adrianne A. Speas (HOA attorney)
    Krupnik & Speas, LLC
    Appeared as counsel for Respondent
  • Robert Sisley (board president; witness)
    Prescott Lakes Community Association, Inc.
    Also Alternate Voting Member for Parkside; served as the association representative
  • Catherine Black (assistant community manager; witness)
    Homeco
    Homeco is the HOA management company for Respondent
  • Lynn M. Krupnik (HOA attorney)
    Krupnik & Speas, LLC
    Counsel listed for Respondent in distribution

Neutral Parties

  • Jenna Clark (ALJ)
    OAH
  • Susan Nicolson (ADRE Commissioner)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
    Final decision authority/recipient of ALJ Decision

Donald F. Molley v. Verde Meadows Crest Homeowners Association

Case Summary

Case ID 23F-H007-REL
Agency ADRE
Tribunal OAH
Decision Date 2023-01-20
Administrative Law Judge Jenna Clark
Outcome Petitioner's entire petition was denied because the Department of Real Estate/OAH lacked statutory jurisdiction over the Association. The Association was found not to meet the statutory definitions of a condominium association or a planned community association because it does not own common areas or real property.
Filing Fees Refunded $0.00
Civil Penalties $0.00

Parties & Counsel

Petitioner Donald F. Molley Counsel
Respondent Verde Meadows Crest Homeowners Association Counsel Sean K. Moynihan, Esq.

Alleged Violations

Declaration Section 12.B
ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805

Outcome Summary

Petitioner's entire petition was denied because the Department of Real Estate/OAH lacked statutory jurisdiction over the Association. The Association was found not to meet the statutory definitions of a condominium association or a planned community association because it does not own common areas or real property.

Why this result: OAH determined it lacked jurisdiction pursuant to ARIZ. REV. STAT. §§ 32-2199 et seq., because the Respondent Association is neither a condominium association nor a planned community association (ARIZ. REV. STAT. §§ 33-1202(10) and 33-1802(4)).

Key Issues & Findings

Alleged use of Association funds for maintenance on private property.

Petitioner alleged that the Association used HOA funds for maintenance on private property in violation of Section 12.B of the CC&Rs.

Orders: Petition denied due to lack of OAH jurisdiction.

Filing fee: $0.00, Fee refunded: No

Disposition: petitioner_loss

Cited:

  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1202(10)
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1802(4)
  • Declaration Section 12.B

Alleged failure to provide requested financial documents and meeting minutes.

Petitioner requested monthly bank statements and financial reports for 2022, and financial books for 2021, which Respondent allegedly failed to provide in violation of ARS § 33-1805.

Orders: Petition denied due to lack of OAH jurisdiction.

Filing fee: $0.00, Fee refunded: No

Disposition: petitioner_loss

Cited:

  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1202(10)
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1802(4)

Analytics Highlights

Topics: jurisdiction, planned_community_act, condominium_act, denial, document_request, maintenance
Additional Citations:

  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 32-2199
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1202(10)
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1802(4)
  • Declaration Section 12.B

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This summary focuses on the hearing proceedings, key legal arguments, and the final administrative law judge decision regarding the matter of Donald F. Molley v. Verde Meadows Crest Homeowners Association (No. 23F-H007-REL), heard at the Office of Administrative Hearings (OAH).

Key Facts and Proceedings:

The case involved Petitioner Donald F. Molley, a townhouse owner and member of the Association, appearing on his own behalf, against the Association, represented by Kari Wickenheiser. The evidentiary hearing was held on January 5, 2023. The matter had previously been set for hearing on October 28, 2022, but was vacated and subsequently reopened and continued at the request of the Petitioner. A pre-hearing motion to dismiss filed by the Respondent was denied because the contentions raised factual issues that required determination on a hearing record.

Main Issues:

Petitioner filed a 2-issue petition alleging:

  1. Violation of the Association’s Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions (CC&Rs) Section 12.B, asserting the Association improperly used HOA funds to maintain private property (lawns, trees, etc.). Petitioner argued that the governing documents required individual homeowners to handle their own maintenance.
  2. Violation of ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805 for the alleged failure of the Association to provide requested financial documents and meeting minutes.

Key Arguments:

  • Petitioner’s Argument: Petitioner maintained that the Association must follow state statutes governing homeowners associations and that the use of HOA funds for private maintenance was illegal and contrary to the CC&Rs. He asserted he had not received requested financial documents for 2022 or minutes from board meetings.
  • Respondent’s Argument (Jurisdiction and Defense): Respondent argued that the Association is merely a nonprofit homeowners association recognized federally and by the state as a 501(c)(4) organization, and crucially, does not own common areas or real property. Therefore, the Association argued it was not subject to the Arizona Planned Communities Act or the Condominium Act (ARIZ. REV. STAT. §§ 33-1802 et seq. or 33-1202 et seq.), meaning the Department of Real Estate lacked jurisdiction over the dispute. Regarding documentation, the Respondent testified that the 2022 financial statement was incomplete, partly due to the Petitioner (a former Treasurer) failing to remit necessary financial documentation after he was voted out of office.

Outcome and Legal Points:

The Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) decision, issued January 20, 2023, focused primarily on statutory jurisdiction.

  • The ALJ concluded that the Association is not a condominium association because it is not organized under ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1241 and undivided interests in common elements are not vested in unit owners.
  • The ALJ concluded that the Association is not a planned community association as defined by ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1802(4) because it does not own any real property.
  • Because the Association was governed by neither the Condominium Act nor the Planned Communities Act, the ALJ found that the Department of Real Estate lacked the jurisdiction required under ARIZ. REV. STAT. §§ 32-2199 et seq. to hear or decide the contested case.
  • The Petitioner's right to petition the Department for a hearing exists only in a dispute with a condominium association or a planned community association.

Based on the lack of jurisdiction, the Petitioner’s petition was denied. The ALJ noted, as an aside, that the record was also "devoid of evidence" to support a finding that the Respondent violated the CC&Rs or ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805, even if jurisdiction had been established.

Questions

Question

If my HOA doesn't own any common areas or real property, can I still file a dispute with the Department of Real Estate?

Short Answer

No. If the association does not own real property, it may not meet the statutory definition of a 'planned community,' meaning the Department lacks jurisdiction to hear the dispute.

Detailed Answer

The ALJ determined that because the Association did not own any real property or common areas, it did not qualify as a 'planned community' under Arizona statutes. Consequently, the Department of Real Estate had no authority to enforce the Planned Communities Act against it.

Alj Quote

The record also reflects that the Association is also not a planned community association because it does not own any real property. As a result, neither the Condominium Act nor the Planned Communities Act governs the Association and neither Act can be enforced against it.

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 33-1802(4); A.R.S. § 32-2199 et seq.

Topic Tags

  • jurisdiction
  • common areas
  • planned community definition

Question

What evidence do I need to provide if I claim the HOA is spending money on maintenance in violation of the CC&Rs?

Short Answer

You must provide specific details such as the exact amounts spent, who performed the work, the specific locations (lots), and the dates/duration of the work.

Detailed Answer

The ALJ noted that the homeowner failed to support his claim because he could not provide specific facts regarding the alleged improper expenditures. General testimony without specific data (amounts, dates, locations) is insufficient.

Alj Quote

Petitioner, however, could not identify the amount Respondent allegedly spent on said landscaping, by whom the maintenance was performed, on which lots the maintenance was performed, or when and for what duration the alleged maintenance took place.

Legal Basis

Burden of Proof

Topic Tags

  • evidence
  • maintenance
  • misuse of funds

Question

Is a verbal request enough to prove the HOA failed to provide financial documents?

Short Answer

Likely not. To succeed in a hearing, you must be able to prove the specific date of the request and the identity of the person to whom the request was made.

Detailed Answer

The ALJ found the homeowner's testimony insufficient because he claimed to have made verbal requests but could not recall when they happened or who he asked.

Alj Quote

Petitioner testified that he verbally requested 'financials' and 'meeting minutes' from Respondent, but could not provide the date(s) of the request(s) and/or name the person(s) to whom the request(s) were made.

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 33-1805

Topic Tags

  • records request
  • evidence
  • financials

Question

Are the CC&Rs considered a binding contract?

Short Answer

Yes. When a homeowner buys a property within the development, they agree to be bound by the terms of the Declaration, forming an enforceable contract.

Detailed Answer

The decision affirms that the Declaration acts as a contract between the Association and the property owner upon purchase.

Alj Quote

Thus, the Declaration forms an enforceable contract between the Association and each property owner.

Legal Basis

Contract Law

Topic Tags

  • CC&Rs
  • contract
  • enforceability

Question

What is the legal definition of a 'condominium' in Arizona regarding HOA disputes?

Short Answer

Real estate is only a condominium if the unit owners are vested with undivided interests in the common elements.

Detailed Answer

The ALJ clarified that if owners do not have undivided interests in common elements, the development is not a condominium under the law.

Alj Quote

Real estate is not a condominium unless the undivided interests in the common elements are vested in the unit owners.

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 33-1202(10)

Topic Tags

  • condominium definition
  • common elements

Question

Can the HOA be excused from providing financial records if a former board member failed to hand them over?

Short Answer

Potentially yes. The ALJ noted testimony that the HOA could not provide certain records because the Petitioner (a former Treasurer) had failed to return them after leaving the board.

Detailed Answer

While the case was decided on jurisdiction, the decision recorded the HOA's defense that the 2022 financial statement was incomplete because the former Treasurer (the Petitioner) did not remit the necessary documentation.

Alj Quote

Ms. Wickenheiser testified that Respondent was unable to comply with Petitioner’s request for the Association’s 2022 financial statement… in large part, because Petitioner had served as the Association’s Treasurer for that fiscal year and had failed to remit the Association’s financial documentation

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 33-1805

Topic Tags

  • records
  • board member duties
  • treasurer

Case

Docket No
23F-H007-REL
Case Title
Donald F. Molley v. Verde Meadows Crest Homeowners Association
Decision Date
2023-01-20
Alj Name
Jenna Clark
Tribunal
OAH
Agency
ADRE

Questions

Question

If my HOA doesn't own any common areas or real property, can I still file a dispute with the Department of Real Estate?

Short Answer

No. If the association does not own real property, it may not meet the statutory definition of a 'planned community,' meaning the Department lacks jurisdiction to hear the dispute.

Detailed Answer

The ALJ determined that because the Association did not own any real property or common areas, it did not qualify as a 'planned community' under Arizona statutes. Consequently, the Department of Real Estate had no authority to enforce the Planned Communities Act against it.

Alj Quote

The record also reflects that the Association is also not a planned community association because it does not own any real property. As a result, neither the Condominium Act nor the Planned Communities Act governs the Association and neither Act can be enforced against it.

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 33-1802(4); A.R.S. § 32-2199 et seq.

Topic Tags

  • jurisdiction
  • common areas
  • planned community definition

Question

What evidence do I need to provide if I claim the HOA is spending money on maintenance in violation of the CC&Rs?

Short Answer

You must provide specific details such as the exact amounts spent, who performed the work, the specific locations (lots), and the dates/duration of the work.

Detailed Answer

The ALJ noted that the homeowner failed to support his claim because he could not provide specific facts regarding the alleged improper expenditures. General testimony without specific data (amounts, dates, locations) is insufficient.

Alj Quote

Petitioner, however, could not identify the amount Respondent allegedly spent on said landscaping, by whom the maintenance was performed, on which lots the maintenance was performed, or when and for what duration the alleged maintenance took place.

Legal Basis

Burden of Proof

Topic Tags

  • evidence
  • maintenance
  • misuse of funds

Question

Is a verbal request enough to prove the HOA failed to provide financial documents?

Short Answer

Likely not. To succeed in a hearing, you must be able to prove the specific date of the request and the identity of the person to whom the request was made.

Detailed Answer

The ALJ found the homeowner's testimony insufficient because he claimed to have made verbal requests but could not recall when they happened or who he asked.

Alj Quote

Petitioner testified that he verbally requested 'financials' and 'meeting minutes' from Respondent, but could not provide the date(s) of the request(s) and/or name the person(s) to whom the request(s) were made.

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 33-1805

Topic Tags

  • records request
  • evidence
  • financials

Question

Are the CC&Rs considered a binding contract?

Short Answer

Yes. When a homeowner buys a property within the development, they agree to be bound by the terms of the Declaration, forming an enforceable contract.

Detailed Answer

The decision affirms that the Declaration acts as a contract between the Association and the property owner upon purchase.

Alj Quote

Thus, the Declaration forms an enforceable contract between the Association and each property owner.

Legal Basis

Contract Law

Topic Tags

  • CC&Rs
  • contract
  • enforceability

Question

What is the legal definition of a 'condominium' in Arizona regarding HOA disputes?

Short Answer

Real estate is only a condominium if the unit owners are vested with undivided interests in the common elements.

Detailed Answer

The ALJ clarified that if owners do not have undivided interests in common elements, the development is not a condominium under the law.

Alj Quote

Real estate is not a condominium unless the undivided interests in the common elements are vested in the unit owners.

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 33-1202(10)

Topic Tags

  • condominium definition
  • common elements

Question

Can the HOA be excused from providing financial records if a former board member failed to hand them over?

Short Answer

Potentially yes. The ALJ noted testimony that the HOA could not provide certain records because the Petitioner (a former Treasurer) had failed to return them after leaving the board.

Detailed Answer

While the case was decided on jurisdiction, the decision recorded the HOA's defense that the 2022 financial statement was incomplete because the former Treasurer (the Petitioner) did not remit the necessary documentation.

Alj Quote

Ms. Wickenheiser testified that Respondent was unable to comply with Petitioner’s request for the Association’s 2022 financial statement… in large part, because Petitioner had served as the Association’s Treasurer for that fiscal year and had failed to remit the Association’s financial documentation

Legal Basis

A.R.S. § 33-1805

Topic Tags

  • records
  • board member duties
  • treasurer

Case

Docket No
23F-H007-REL
Case Title
Donald F. Molley v. Verde Meadows Crest Homeowners Association
Decision Date
2023-01-20
Alj Name
Jenna Clark
Tribunal
OAH
Agency
ADRE

Case Participants

Petitioner Side

  • Donald F. Molley (petitioner)
    Appeared on his own behalf; also referred to as Donald Molley or Mr. Molly; previously served as Association board member and treasurer

Respondent Side

  • Kari Wickenheiser (board president)
    Verde Meadows Crest Homeowners Association
    Testified on behalf of Respondent; also referred to as Miss Wizer/Wenheiser
  • Sean K. Moynihan (HOA attorney)
    Smith & Wamsley, PLLC
    Counsel for Respondent
  • Sue Antonio (board member)
    Verde Meadows Crest Homeowners Association
    Former President, Treasurer, and Secretary of the HOA, mentioned in testimony

Neutral Parties

  • Jenna Clark (ALJ)
    Office of Administrative Hearings
  • Louis Dettorre (Commissioner)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
  • c. serrano (OAH staff)
    Office of Administrative Hearings
    Transmitted documents
  • Miranda Alvarez (legal secretary)
    Office of Administrative Hearings
    Transmitted documents
  • AHansen (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
    Recipient of transmittal
  • vnunez (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
    Recipient of transmittal
  • djones (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
    Recipient of transmittal
  • labril (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
    Recipient of transmittal

Robert C. Ochs v. The Camelview Greens Homeowners Association

Case Summary

Case ID 22F-H2222048-REL
Agency ADRE
Tribunal OAH
Decision Date 2022-10-04
Administrative Law Judge Jenna Clark
Outcome The Administrative Law Judge denied the petition, finding that the Petitioner failed to prove the Association violated ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805, concluding that the requested materials lists and specifications were not 'financial and other records of the association' that the HOA was legally required to possess and provide within 10 business days.
Filing Fees Refunded $0.00
Civil Penalties $0.00

Parties & Counsel

Petitioner Robert C. Ochs Counsel
Respondent The Camelview Greens Homeowners Association Counsel Ashley Moscarello, Esq.

Alleged Violations

ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805 A

Outcome Summary

The Administrative Law Judge denied the petition, finding that the Petitioner failed to prove the Association violated ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805, concluding that the requested materials lists and specifications were not 'financial and other records of the association' that the HOA was legally required to possess and provide within 10 business days.

Why this result: Petitioner failed to sustain the burden of proof that the Respondent violated the records request statute.

Key Issues & Findings

Alleged violation of records request statute (failure to timely provide materials lists/specifications related to roof replacement/repairs).

Petitioner requested materials lists and specifications regarding recent (Sept 2021) and past (since 1986) roof work on February 27, 2022. The Association provided a scope of work document from the vendor on May 11, 2022, after the petition was filed. The ALJ determined the requested documents were not established to be 'financial and other records of the association' as contemplated by the statute, and TMT was not in possession of them at the time of the request.

Orders: Petitioner's petition and request for a civil penalty were denied. Respondent was not ordered to reimburse Petitioner's filing fee.

Filing fee: $0.00, Fee refunded: No

Disposition: petitioner_loss

Cited:

  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805 A
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 32-2199.02 A
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 32-2199.05

Analytics Highlights

Topics: HOA records request, Planned Community Act, Roof Repair/Replacement, Condominium, Burden of Proof
Additional Citations:

  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 32-2199.02
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 32-2102
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 32-2199 et seq.
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 32-2199.05
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 32-2199(2)
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 32-2199.01(A)
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 32-2199.01(D)
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 41-1092 et seq.
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 32-2199.04
  • ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 41-1092.09

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This summary focuses on the hearing held on September 19, 2022, before Administrative Law Judge Jenna Clark, regarding Petitioner Robert C. Ochs versus the Camel View Green Homeowners Association (HOA), concerning an alleged violation of Arizona Revised Statute (ARIZ. REV. STAT.) § 33-1805 subsection A.

Key Facts and Underlying Dispute

The dispute arose after Petitioner Ochs' investment property sustained over $30,000 in interior damage following a severe storm in July 2021, necessitating roof replacement by the HOA's vendor around September/October 2021. When the roof leaked again in February 2022, Petitioner sought documentation regarding the repairs.

On February 27, 2022, Petitioner submitted a two-part records request to the HOA's management company (TMT), seeking: (1) materials lists and specifications for the most recent roof replacement, and (2) materials lists and specifications for all past replacements/repairs since 1986. The HOA manager replied on March 3, 2022, indicating she was "working on" the request. Petitioner filed a petition on or about April 24, 2022, after receiving no further documentation or substantive response. The HOA's legal counsel finally provided a "scope of work" document from the roofing vendor (dated September 7, 2021) on May 11, 2022, after the petition was filed.

Main Issues and Legal Arguments

The central issue was whether the HOA violated ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805A, which requires an association to make "all financial and other records of the association" reasonably available for examination within ten business days of a request.

  1. Petitioner's Argument: Petitioner argued the HOA violated the 10-day requirement. He contended that the materials lists and specifications related to the recent repair were "other records of the association" because the HOA (Camel View Greens) would have received and retained this documentation (like the "scope of work") to verify and pay the vendor's invoice by the end of 2021.
  2. Respondent's Argument: The HOA denied the violation. They argued that the materials lists and specifications requested are not "association records" contemplated by the statute, nor are they records the nonprofit corporation keeps in the ordinary course of business (unlike meeting minutes or financial records). These records belong to the vendor, who is not subject to the 10-day statutory requirement. Furthermore, the witness (Carl Westlund) testified that the management company (TMT, which started managing in 2018) did not possess the specific documents requested at the time of the request.

Legal Points and Findings

The Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) concluded that the Petitioner did not meet the burden of proof.

  • The ALJ found that the request for 35 years of prior records (since 1986) was unreasonable because the current management company (TMT) confirmed it did not obtain those records from its predecessor.
  • Regarding the records for the recent replacement, the request was not unreasonable, but the documents sought were not records kept in the ordinary course of business.
  • The record did not establish *when* the HOA or TMT received the "scope of work" from the vendor (Ideal Roofing), so it could not be proven that the document should have been supplied within the 10-day statutory window (March 11, 2022).
  • The Petitioner failed to establish that the documents were "financial" or constituted "other records of the association" as required by ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805.

Outcome

The Administrative Law Judge issued a decision on October 4, 2022, concluding that the Association's conduct was not in violation of ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805. Petitioner's petition and the request for a civil penalty were denied, and the Respondent was not required to reimburse the Petitioner's filing fee.

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{ “case”: { “docket_no”: “22F-H2222048-REL”, “case_title”: “Robert C. Ochs vs. The Camelview Greens Homeowners Association”, “decision_date”: “2022-10-04”, “alj_name”: “Jenna Clark”, “tribunal”: “OAH”, “agency”: “ADRE” }, “questions”: [ { “question”: “If my HOA does not have a specific document I requested, are they required to obtain it from a vendor to fulfill my request?”, “short_answer”: “No. The HOA is not obligated to produce records it does not possess or keep in the ordinary course of business.”, “detailed_answer”: “If an HOA management company is not in possession of a specific document (such as a materials list held by a third-party contractor) at the time of the request, they are not legally obligated to obtain it or provide it within the 10-day statutory window. A failure to provide a document the HOA never possessed is not a statutory violation.”, “alj_quote”: “What the record reflects is that TMT was never in possession of the documents in Petitioner’s request. While TMT could have provided notice of such within 10 business days, they were under no legal obligation to do so. No statutory violation(s) exist.”, “legal_basis”: “A.R.S. § 33-1805”, “topic_tags”: [ “records request”, “vendor documents”, “HOA obligations” ] }, { “question”: “Is the HOA required to mail or email me copies of the records I request?”, “short_answer”: “Not necessarily. The primary statutory requirement is to make records available for examination.”, “detailed_answer”: “The Administrative Law Judge clarified that the statute strictly requires the HOA to reasonably permit a homeowner to examine records. While providing copies is common, the explicit statutory requirement is for examination.”, “alj_quote”: “Notably, ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805 does not require a Homeowner’s Association to provide copies of records upon request of a homeowner. Rather, the statute requires only that the association reasonably permit a homeowner to examine records.”, “legal_basis”: “A.R.S. § 33-1805”, “topic_tags”: [ “records request”, “procedural requirements”, “copies vs examination” ] }, { “question”: “Can I request historical records dating back several decades?”, “short_answer”: “Requests for very old records may be deemed unreasonable, especially if management companies have changed.”, “detailed_answer”: “A request for records spanning 35 years was found to be unreasonable in this case, particularly because the current management company testified they did not receive such records from the previous management company.”, “alj_quote”: “Petitioner’s secondary request for 35 years’ worth records was unreasonable, as uncontroverted testimony established that TMT did not obtain any records from its predecessor upon the commencement of its position.”, “legal_basis”: “Reasonableness standard”, “topic_tags”: [ “historical records”, “reasonableness”, “management transition” ] }, { “question”: “How many days does the HOA have to fulfill a request to examine records?”, “short_answer”: “The HOA has ten business days.”, “detailed_answer”: “Under Arizona law, an association must allow a member to examine financial and other records within ten business days of the request.”, “alj_quote”: “The association shall have ten business days to fulfill a request for examination.”, “legal_basis”: “A.R.S. § 33-1805(A)”, “topic_tags”: [ “deadlines”, “statutory requirements” ] }, { “question”: “Do detailed materials lists from contractors count as ‘official records’ of the association?”, “short_answer”: “Not automatically. If they are not kept in the ordinary course of business, they may not be considered association records.”, “detailed_answer”: “The ALJ found that specific materials lists and specifications from a vendor, which were not kept by the HOA in the ordinary course of business, did not constitute ‘financial’ or ‘other records of the association’ that the HOA was mandated to provide.”, “alj_quote”: “Petitioner did not establish that the documents in his records request were ‘financial’ or constituted ‘other records of the association’ as required by law.”, “legal_basis”: “A.R.S. § 33-1805”, “topic_tags”: [ “definition of records”, “contractor documents” ] }, { “question”: “Who is responsible for proving that the HOA violated the law?”, “short_answer”: “The homeowner (petitioner) bears the burden of proof.”, “detailed_answer”: “In an administrative hearing regarding an HOA dispute, the homeowner filing the petition must prove by a ‘preponderance of the evidence’ that the HOA violated the statute.”, “alj_quote”: “In this proceeding, Petitioner bears the burden of proving by a preponderance of the evidence that Respondent violated ARIZ. REV. STAT. § 33-1805.”, “legal_basis”: “A.A.C. R2-19-119”, “topic_tags”: [ “burden of proof”, “legal standards”, “hearing procedures” ] } ] }

Case Participants

Petitioner Side

  • Robert C. Ochs (petitioner)
    Appeared on his own behalf

Respondent Side

  • Ashley N. Moscarello (HOA attorney)
    Goodman Holmgren
    Appeared on behalf of respondent
  • Carl Westlund (witness)
    The Management Trust
    Division Vice President of Community Management at TMT
  • Shauna Carr (property manager)
    The Management Trust
    Former executive community manager for Camel View Greens
  • Dameon Cons (HOA attorney)
    Goodman Holmgren
    Sent response letter to Petitioner
  • Mark A. Holmgren (HOA attorney)
    Goodman Holmgren
    Counsel for Respondent listed on transmittals

Neutral Parties

  • Jenna Clark (ALJ)
    OAH
  • Louis Dettorre (Commissioner)
    ADRE
  • Miranda Alvarez (Legal Secretary)
    OAH
    Transmitted orders/minute entries
  • AHansen (ADRE Staff)
    ADRE
    Recipient of official documents
  • vnunez (ADRE Staff)
    ADRE
    Recipient of official documents
  • djones (ADRE Staff)
    ADRE
    Recipient of official documents
  • labril (ADRE Staff)
    ADRE
    Recipient of official documents

Other Participants

  • Jeff Centers (vendor/project manager)
    Vendor
    Contractor hired by the community