Terry Marvin & Lori J Lefferts v. The Stone Canyon Community

Case Summary

Case ID22F-H2221018-REL
AgencyADRE
TribunalOAH
Decision Date2022-08-05
Administrative Law JudgeKay A. Abramsohn
OutcomeThe Petition alleging that the Stone Canyon Community Association violated its Design Guidelines by granting a variance for secondary improvements within the side-yard setback to Lot 19 owners was dismissed. The ALJ found that the DRC exercised reasonable discretion in granting a deviation (variance) under Guidelines Section 5, Item 12, and the Petitioners failed to meet their burden of proof.
Filing Fees Refunded$500.00
Civil Penalties$0.00

Parties & Counsel

PetitionerTerry Marvin & Lori J. LeffertsCounsel
RespondentThe Stone Canyon Community Association, Inc.CounselNicholas C.S. Nogami

Alleged Violations

CC&R § 11.3; Guidelines § 1, Items 1 & 32; Guidelines § 5, Item 12

Outcome Summary

The Petition alleging that the Stone Canyon Community Association violated its Design Guidelines by granting a variance for secondary improvements within the side-yard setback to Lot 19 owners was dismissed. The ALJ found that the DRC exercised reasonable discretion in granting a deviation (variance) under Guidelines Section 5, Item 12, and the Petitioners failed to meet their burden of proof.

Why this result: The Administrative Law Judge determined that the Design Review Committee acted reasonably within its authority to grant a deviation (variance) to the Guidelines to allow the proposed secondary improvements (grading, driveway, enclosure) within the 15’ side-yard setback in extenuating circumstances, consistent with the requirements outlined in Guideline Section 5, Item 12.

Key Issues & Findings

Alleged violation by DRC when granting a variance for side-yard setback requirements for secondary improvements.

Petitioners (Lot 20 owners) alleged the DRC violated guidelines by granting a variance to Lot 19 owners for placing secondary improvements (driveway, grading, site walls, enclosure) within the 15-foot side-yard setback. Petitioners sought rescission of the variance, arguing the DRC failed to establish an unreasonable hardship or burden as required by Guideline Section 5, Item 12, thereby acting unreasonably and causing diminution in Lot 20 value.

Orders: Petitioners' Petition is dismissed. Petitioners bear their $500.00 filing fee.

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: No

Disposition: respondent_win

Cited:
  • Guidelines Section 1, Item 1
  • Guidelines Section 1, Item 32
  • Guidelines Section 5, Item 12
  • A.A.C. R2-19-119
  • A.R.S. Title 33, Chapter 16

Analytics Highlights

Topics: HOA dispute, Design Review Committee, variance, setback, secondary improvements, reasonable discretion
Additional Citations:
  • CC&R Section 11.3
  • Guidelines Section 1, Item 1
  • Guidelines Section 1, Item 32
  • Guidelines Section 5, Item 12
  • A.R.S. Title 33, Chapter 16
  • A.A.C. R2-19-119

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The administrative hearing concerned a dispute between Terry Marvin and Lori J. Lefferts (Petitioners, owners of Lot 20) and The Stone Canyon Community Association, Inc. (Respondent/Association) regarding the approval of construction plans for Lot 19.

Key Facts and Issues

On October 11, 2021, Petitioners filed a Petition alleging that the Association’s Design Review Committee (DRC) violated adopted Development Design Guidelines (Guidelines). The core allegation was that the DRC improperly granted a variance to Lot 19 Owners regarding side-yard setback requirements. The approval allowed secondary improvements—specifically a driveway extension, grading, site walls, and mechanical enclosure—to encroach into the required 15-foot side setback area.

The issue before the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) was whether the Association, through the DRC, violated Guidelines Section 1 (Items 1 and 32) and Section 5 (Item 12) when granting this variance.

Key Arguments

  1. Petitioners' Position: Petitioners argued that documentary evidence, including DRC minutes from June 29, 2021, and subsequent legal correspondence, proved the DRC granted a variance. Petitioners asserted this variance was invalid because the DRC members failed to make a required finding of "unreasonable hardship or burden" for the Lot 19 Owners, as mandated by Guideline Section 5, Item 12. Petitioners contended the DRC acted unreasonably, resulting in a diminution of Lot 20’s property value and aesthetic detriment.
  2. Respondent's Position: The Association admitted that the term "variance" was used but argued this was a semantic error or "misnomer". The Association maintained that no variance was necessary or granted. Instead, the approval was properly granted as a "modification" for secondary improvements (grading, driveways, site walls, etc.) under Guideline Section 1, Item 32, which allows such approvals on a "case-by-case basis". The Association's Consulting Architect testified that the modification provisions were added to accommodate development constraints on unique lots, and the DRC meticulously reviewed the Lot 19 merits.

Legal Points Focused On

The hearing focused heavily on the distinction between a variance (which requires a finding of unreasonable hardship/burden per Guidelines Section 5, Item 12) and a modification (which is considered on a case-by-case basis for secondary improvements per Guidelines Section 1, Item 32). DRC members testified that they did not believe they were granting a variance. Petitioners argued that approving encroachments without applying clear standards, whether classified as a variance or modification, was an unreasonable breach of duty.

Outcome and Decision

The ALJ found that "semantics are at play" in the matter. The ALJ ultimately concluded that the hearing record demonstrated the DRC "exercised reasonable discretion" under its authority to grant a Section 5, Item 12 deviation, characterized by the ALJ as "i.e., a variance," to allow the proposed secondary improvements within the setback. The ALJ found that Petitioners did not establish, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the Association had violated the alleged Guideline provisions. Therefore, the Petition was dismissed.

Questions

Question

What is the burden of proof for a homeowner challenging an HOA's architectural decision?

Short Answer

The homeowner must prove by a 'preponderance of the evidence' that the HOA violated its governing documents.

Detailed Answer

In an administrative hearing regarding an HOA dispute, the petitioner (homeowner) bears the burden of proof. They must demonstrate that it is more probable than not that the Association or its Committee violated specific provisions of the governing documents (such as Design Guidelines).

Alj Quote

Petitioners bear the burden of proving by a preponderance of the evidence that, as alleged, Association through actions of Committee had violated Guidelines Section 1, Items 1 and 32 requirements and Section 5, Item 12 requirements when Committee granted a variance…1

Legal Basis

A.A.C. R2-19-119

Topic Tags

  • burden of proof
  • legal standards
  • evidence

Question

What does 'preponderance of the evidence' mean in an HOA hearing?

Short Answer

It means evidence that is more convincing than the opposing evidence, showing the fact is 'more probable than not.'

Detailed Answer

The ALJ defines this legal standard as evidence that carries greater weight than the evidence offered in opposition. It does not require absolute certainty, but rather that the fact sought to be proved is more probable than not.

Alj Quote

A preponderance of the evidence is “[e]vidence which is of greater weight or more convincing than the evidence which is offered in opposition to it; that is, evidence which as a whole shows that the fact sought to be proved is more probable than not.”2

Legal Basis

Black's Law Dictionary (6th ed. 1990)

Topic Tags

  • legal definitions
  • standards of evidence

Question

Can my HOA grant a neighbor a variance for construction setbacks?

Short Answer

Yes, if the governing documents grant the Design Review Committee discretion to deviate from requirements in extenuating circumstances.

Detailed Answer

If the Design Guidelines provide the Committee with discretion to deviate from requirements when following them would create an unreasonable hardship or burden, the HOA can validly grant a variance. The ALJ looks for whether the Committee exercised 'reasonable discretion' under this authority.

Alj Quote

The Administrative Law Judge concludes that the hearing record demonstrates that Committee exercised reasonable discretion under its authority to grant… a Section 5, Item 12 deviation, i.e., a variance… to allow the proposed/approved secondary improvements to be placed within the 15’ side-yard setback.3

Legal Basis

Design Guidelines Section 5, Item 12

Topic Tags

  • variances
  • setbacks
  • HOA discretion
  • architectural review

Question

Can the HOA treat driveways and landscaping differently than main house structures regarding setbacks?

Short Answer

Yes, governing documents may allow 'modifications' for secondary improvements even if structures have strict setbacks.

Detailed Answer

Governing documents may distinguish between 'building structures' (which must strictly comply with setbacks) and 'secondary improvements' like driveways, grading, or site walls. The documents may allow modifications to setbacks for these secondary items on a case-by-case basis.

Alj Quote

All building Structures shall comply with the above outlined setback distances. Modifications to the above outlined setback distances will be considered on a case-by-case basis for secondary improvements such as grading, landscaping, driveways, site walls, etc.4

Legal Basis

Design Guidelines Section 1, Item 32

Topic Tags

  • setbacks
  • driveways
  • landscaping
  • architectural guidelines

Question

What qualifies as an 'unreasonable hardship' that justifies a variance?

Short Answer

Practical necessities, such as needing access to a garage that otherwise complies with setbacks, can be considered an extenuating circumstance.

Detailed Answer

In this case, the Committee determined that needing driveway access to a new garage (which itself was built within the allowable building envelope) constituted an 'extenuating circumstance.' This practical necessity justified granting a variance for the driveway and grading to encroach into the setback area.

Alj Quote

The hearing record demonstrates that… Association supported the Committee’s determination that needing access to the new RV garage which itself was being built within the building envelope… met the criteria of “extenuating” circumstances… for purposes of granting a “variance” for the new driveway to be placed and necessary grading to occur within the 15’ side-yard setback.5

Legal Basis

Design Guidelines Section 5, Item 12

Topic Tags

  • hardship
  • variances
  • construction

Question

If I lose my case against the HOA, do I get my filing fee back?

Short Answer

No, if the petition is dismissed, the homeowner is typically ordered to bear the cost of the filing fee.

Detailed Answer

The ALJ has the authority to order who pays the costs. In this decision, after dismissing the petition because the homeowners failed to prove a violation, the ALJ ordered the homeowners to pay their own filing fee.

Alj Quote

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that Petitioners bears their $500.00 filing fee.6

Legal Basis

Administrative Order

Topic Tags

  • fees
  • penalties
  • costs

Case

Docket No
22F-H2221018-REL
Case Title
Terry Marvin & Lori J. Lefferts v. The Stone Canyon Community Association, Inc.
Decision Date
2022-08-05
Alj Name
Kay A. Abramsohn
Tribunal
OAH
Agency
ADRE

Questions

Question

What is the burden of proof for a homeowner challenging an HOA's architectural decision?

Short Answer

The homeowner must prove by a 'preponderance of the evidence' that the HOA violated its governing documents.

Detailed Answer

In an administrative hearing regarding an HOA dispute, the petitioner (homeowner) bears the burden of proof. They must demonstrate that it is more probable than not that the Association or its Committee violated specific provisions of the governing documents (such as Design Guidelines).

Alj Quote

Petitioners bear the burden of proving by a preponderance of the evidence that, as alleged, Association through actions of Committee had violated Guidelines Section 1, Items 1 and 32 requirements and Section 5, Item 12 requirements when Committee granted a variance…1

Legal Basis

A.A.C. R2-19-119

Topic Tags

  • burden of proof
  • legal standards
  • evidence

Question

What does 'preponderance of the evidence' mean in an HOA hearing?

Short Answer

It means evidence that is more convincing than the opposing evidence, showing the fact is 'more probable than not.'

Detailed Answer

The ALJ defines this legal standard as evidence that carries greater weight than the evidence offered in opposition. It does not require absolute certainty, but rather that the fact sought to be proved is more probable than not.

Alj Quote

A preponderance of the evidence is “[e]vidence which is of greater weight or more convincing than the evidence which is offered in opposition to it; that is, evidence which as a whole shows that the fact sought to be proved is more probable than not.”2

Legal Basis

Black's Law Dictionary (6th ed. 1990)

Topic Tags

  • legal definitions
  • standards of evidence

Question

Can my HOA grant a neighbor a variance for construction setbacks?

Short Answer

Yes, if the governing documents grant the Design Review Committee discretion to deviate from requirements in extenuating circumstances.

Detailed Answer

If the Design Guidelines provide the Committee with discretion to deviate from requirements when following them would create an unreasonable hardship or burden, the HOA can validly grant a variance. The ALJ looks for whether the Committee exercised 'reasonable discretion' under this authority.

Alj Quote

The Administrative Law Judge concludes that the hearing record demonstrates that Committee exercised reasonable discretion under its authority to grant… a Section 5, Item 12 deviation, i.e., a variance… to allow the proposed/approved secondary improvements to be placed within the 15’ side-yard setback.3

Legal Basis

Design Guidelines Section 5, Item 12

Topic Tags

  • variances
  • setbacks
  • HOA discretion
  • architectural review

Question

Can the HOA treat driveways and landscaping differently than main house structures regarding setbacks?

Short Answer

Yes, governing documents may allow 'modifications' for secondary improvements even if structures have strict setbacks.

Detailed Answer

Governing documents may distinguish between 'building structures' (which must strictly comply with setbacks) and 'secondary improvements' like driveways, grading, or site walls. The documents may allow modifications to setbacks for these secondary items on a case-by-case basis.

Alj Quote

All building Structures shall comply with the above outlined setback distances. Modifications to the above outlined setback distances will be considered on a case-by-case basis for secondary improvements such as grading, landscaping, driveways, site walls, etc.4

Legal Basis

Design Guidelines Section 1, Item 32

Topic Tags

  • setbacks
  • driveways
  • landscaping
  • architectural guidelines

Question

What qualifies as an 'unreasonable hardship' that justifies a variance?

Short Answer

Practical necessities, such as needing access to a garage that otherwise complies with setbacks, can be considered an extenuating circumstance.

Detailed Answer

In this case, the Committee determined that needing driveway access to a new garage (which itself was built within the allowable building envelope) constituted an 'extenuating circumstance.' This practical necessity justified granting a variance for the driveway and grading to encroach into the setback area.

Alj Quote

The hearing record demonstrates that… Association supported the Committee’s determination that needing access to the new RV garage which itself was being built within the building envelope… met the criteria of “extenuating” circumstances… for purposes of granting a “variance” for the new driveway to be placed and necessary grading to occur within the 15’ side-yard setback.5

Legal Basis

Design Guidelines Section 5, Item 12

Topic Tags

  • hardship
  • variances
  • construction

Question

If I lose my case against the HOA, do I get my filing fee back?

Short Answer

No, if the petition is dismissed, the homeowner is typically ordered to bear the cost of the filing fee.

Detailed Answer

The ALJ has the authority to order who pays the costs. In this decision, after dismissing the petition because the homeowners failed to prove a violation, the ALJ ordered the homeowners to pay their own filing fee.

Alj Quote

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that Petitioners bears their $500.00 filing fee.6

Legal Basis

Administrative Order

Topic Tags

  • fees
  • penalties
  • costs

Case

Docket No
22F-H2221018-REL
Case Title
Terry Marvin & Lori J. Lefferts v. The Stone Canyon Community Association, Inc.
Decision Date
2022-08-05
Alj Name
Kay A. Abramsohn
Tribunal
OAH
Agency
ADRE

Case Participants

Petitioner Side

  • Terry Marvin (petitioner)
  • Lori J. Lefferts (petitioner)
    Also referred to as Lori Lebert/Leopards

Respondent Side

  • Nicholas C.S. Nogami (HOA attorney)
    CARPENTER, HAZLEWOOD, DELGADO & BOLEN, LLP
  • Parker C. Fox (HOA attorney)
    CARPENTER, HAZLEWOOD, DELGADO & BOLEN, LLP
  • Sami M. Farhat (HOA attorney)
    CARPENTER, HAZLEWOOD, DELGADO & BOLEN, LLP
  • Mark Saul (HOA attorney)
    CARPENTER, HAZLEWOOD, DELGADO & BOLEN, LLP
    Partner of Mr. Nogami and counsel to the HOA
  • Jerry Young (Consulting Architect)
    Association representative and Consulting Architect for the Design Review Committee
  • Theodore Riggs (DRC member)
    Also referred to as Ted Riggs; witness called by Petitioners
  • Richard Reese (DRC member)
    Also referred to as Dick Reif/Rice/Reef; former DRC member; witness called by Petitioners
  • Kevin Given (DRC member)
    Head of the DRC; voted against Lot 19 approval
  • Steve Hall (DRC member)
    Absent from July 27, 2021 Committee meeting
  • Andrew Deni (Architect)
    Architect for Lot 19 Owners (also referred to as Andy Deni/Denah/Dencki)
  • Martin Coe (Lot owner)
    Lot 19 Owner
  • Lydia Roos (Lot owner)
    Lot 19 Owner
  • Tim Stampson (General Contractor)
    General Contractor for Lot 19 Project (also referred to as Ken Samson)
  • Divine Homes (observer)
    Summer associate observing proceedings with HOA attorneys
  • Edward GA (observer)
    Summer associate observing proceedings with HOA attorneys

Neutral Parties

  • Kay Abramsohn (ALJ)
  • Louis Dettorre (Commissioner)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
  • A. Hansen (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
  • D. Gardner (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
  • d. jones (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
  • v. nunez (ADRE staff)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
  • c. serrano (OAH staff)
    Signed transmittal
  • Miranda Alvarez (Legal Secretary)
    Signed transmittal (also referred to as M Alvarez)
  • Gina Marcus (Design Review Coordinator)
    Association staff/minutes taker
  • Cindy Nichols (unknown)
    Possible minutes taker

Other Participants

  • Nicholas Dana (Lot owner)
    Owner of Lot 24 and resident of Lot 25
  • Steven Schmidt (observer)
    Petitioner in a different matter, observing the hearing

Vicky Glover v. Foothills Community Association

Case Summary

Case ID19F-H1919046-REL
AgencyADRE
TribunalOAH
Decision Date2019-05-30
Administrative Law JudgeTammy L. Eigenheer
OutcomeThe Administrative Law Judge denied the petition, concluding that Petitioner failed to establish any violation of A.R.S. § 33-1804 regarding both the DRC's restriction on speaking during specific deliberations and the use of email communications for non-regularly scheduled committee business.
Filing Fees Refunded$500.00
Civil Penalties$0.00

Parties & Counsel

PetitionerVicky GloverCounsel
RespondentFoothills Community AssociationCounselB. Austin Baillio

Alleged Violations

A.R.S. § 33-1804

Outcome Summary

The Administrative Law Judge denied the petition, concluding that Petitioner failed to establish any violation of A.R.S. § 33-1804 regarding both the DRC's restriction on speaking during specific deliberations and the use of email communications for non-regularly scheduled committee business.

Why this result: The Petitioner failed to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that the Respondent violated A.R.S. § 33-1804, specifically because the DRC's restrictions on speaking were deemed reasonable, and email communications were not considered 'regularly scheduled committee meetings' requiring public access.

Key Issues & Findings

Open Meetings and Member Right to Speak (DRC and Email Meetings)

Petitioner alleged Respondent violated A.R.S. § 33-1804 by denying her the ability to speak at DRC meetings on other members’ requests, and by conducting deliberations and making decisions via email outside of regularly scheduled meetings.

Orders: Petitioner's petition is denied.

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: Yes

Disposition: respondent_win

Cited:
  • A.R.S. § 33-1804
  • A.R.S. Title 33, Chapter 16, Sections 33-1801 to 33-1818

Analytics Highlights

Topics: HOA, Design Review Committee, Open Meetings, Right to Speak, Email Meetings, A.R.S. 33-1804
Additional Citations:
  • A.R.S. § 32-2199 et seq.
  • A.A.C. R2-19-119
  • A.R.S. § 33-1804
  • A.R.S. § 32-2199.02(B)
  • A.R.S. § 32-2199.04
  • A.R.S. § 41-1092.09

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Briefing Document: Glover v. Foothills Community Association (Case No. 19F-H1919046-REL)

Executive Summary

This document summarizes the Administrative Law Judge Decision in the case of Vicky Glover versus the Foothills Community Association (FCA), where the petitioner’s claims were denied. The petitioner alleged that the FCA’s Design Review Committee (DRC) violated Arizona’s open meeting laws (A.R.S. § 33-1804) on two fronts: first, by conducting unannounced “email meetings” to vote on non-emergency matters, and second, by preventing members from speaking at appropriate times during regularly scheduled DRC meetings.

The Administrative Law Judge (ALJ), Tammy L. Eigenheer, concluded that the petitioner failed to prove any statutory violation. The decision rested on a strict textual interpretation of A.R.S. § 33-1804. Regarding speaking rights, the ALJ determined that while members have a right to speak at an “appropriate time” in committee meetings, the more specific right to speak on an agenda item before a formal vote applies exclusively to Board of Directors meetings, not committee meetings. The judge found it was reasonable for the DRC to rule that a member speaking on another member’s application was not an “appropriate time.”

Concerning the email communications, the ALJ ruled that they do not constitute “regularly scheduled committee meetings” as defined by the statute. Because the email discussions and decisions did not occur at a set weekly, monthly, or quarterly time, they are not subject to the open meeting requirements. The general state policy favoring open meetings was found to be subordinate to the specific statutory language. The petition was therefore denied in its entirety.

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Case Overview

This case involved a dispute between a homeowner and a homeowners association regarding the application of Arizona’s open meeting laws to a committee of the association.

Name / Entity

Representation / Title

Petitioner

Vicky Glover

Appeared on her own behalf

Respondent

Foothills Community Association (FCA)

B. Austin Baillio (Maxwell & Morgan, P.C.)

Adjudicator

Tammy L. Eigenheer

Administrative Law Judge

Jurisdiction

Office of Administrative Hearings

Phoenix, Arizona

Case Timeline

December 13, 2018 & January 9, 2019: Petitioner attends and records DRC meetings where the alleged violations occurred.

January 23, 2019: Vicky Glover files a petition with the Arizona Department of Real Estate.

January 28, 2019: The Department issues a notice to the FCA regarding the petition.

May 10, 2019: An administrative hearing is held.

May 30, 2019: The Administrative Law Judge issues the final decision.

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Petitioner’s Allegations

The petitioner, Vicky Glover, alleged that the Foothills Community Association violated Arizona Revised Statutes (A.R.S.) § 33-1804 in two specific ways:

1. Improper Email Meetings: The FCA’s Design Review Committee (DRC) held unannounced meetings via email to vote on non-emergency matters, which should have been handled in open, public meetings.

2. Denial of Speaking Rights: The DRC refused to allow community members, including the petitioner, to speak at an appropriate time during its regularly scheduled meetings, specifically when she wished to speak on other members’ pending requests.

Key Factual Findings

The facts underlying the petition were not in dispute by the parties during the hearing. The key findings of fact established were:

Organizational Structure:

◦ The FCA Board of Directors is comprised of seven members and meets on the fourth Wednesday of the month at 6:00 p.m.

◦ The Design Review Committee (DRC) is appointed by the Board, is comprised of five members (two of whom are also on the Board), and meets on the second Wednesday of the month at 2:00 p.m.

Events at DRC Meetings:

◦ On December 13, 2018, and January 9, 2019, Vicky Glover attended and recorded DRC meetings.

◦ During these meetings, she was not permitted to speak on issues being discussed related to other members’ pending requests.

Use of Email by the DRC:

◦ During meetings, DRC members mentioned that additional information for certain requests would be shared via email after the meeting.

◦ Based on this emailed information, DRC members would approve or deny the request.

◦ Decisions made via email between meetings were formally “ratified” at the subsequent DRC meeting.

◦ FCA Manager Pat Wontor testified, denying that the DRC took initial action via email, asserting instead that emails were only used to gather additional information on matters that had already been discussed in an open meeting.

DRC Policies: A request submitted to the DRC is deemed approved if it is not denied within 60 days.

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Legal Analysis and Judge’s Conclusions

The Administrative Law Judge’s decision centered on a strict interpretation of the plain language of A.R.S. § 33-1804. The petitioner bore the burden of proving a violation by a preponderance of the evidence and failed to do so on both counts.

I. Member Speaking Rights at Committee Meetings

The judge analyzed the petitioner’s claim that she was wrongfully denied the right to speak at DRC meetings.

Governing Statute: A.R.S. § 33-1804(A) states that at “any regularly scheduled committee meetings… all members… shall be permitted to attend and speak at an appropriate time during the deliberations and proceedings.”

ALJ’s Interpretation: The judge found a critical distinction within the statute’s text. A later clause specifies that “the board… shall permit a member… to speak once after the board has discussed a specific agenda item but before the board takes formal action on that item.”

Conclusion: The judge ruled that this specific right to speak on an item before a vote applies only to meetings of the Board of Directors, not to committee meetings. For committee meetings, the standard is the more general “appropriate time.” The ALJ concluded it was reasonable for the DRC to determine that having one member speak on another member’s private application was not an “appropriate time.” Therefore, the DRC’s refusal to allow the petitioner to speak did not violate the statute.

II. Email Deliberations and “Meetings”

The judge next addressed the claim that email communications constituted illegal, non-public meetings.

Governing Statute: A.R.S. § 33-1804(A) mandates that open meeting rules apply to “regularly scheduled committee meetings.”

ALJ’s Interpretation: The judge concluded that the email discussions, deliberations, and decisions among DRC members did not meet the definition of “regularly scheduled.” These communications did not occur at a set time on a recurring basis (e.g., weekly, monthly, quarterly). While they could be considered a form of meeting, they were not regularly scheduled ones.

Effect of State Policy: The judge acknowledged the policy statement in A.R.S. § 33-1804(F), which expresses a legislative preference for open meetings. However, the judge ruled that this general policy “does not override the specific provisions of A.R.S. § 33-1804(A) that only ‘regularly scheduled’ committee meetings must be open to the members.”

Conclusion: Because the email communications were not regularly scheduled, they did not fall under the open meeting requirements of the statute, and no violation occurred.

Final Order and Implications

Based on the legal analysis, the Administrative Law Judge found that the petitioner did not establish any violation of A.R.S. § 33-1804.

Final Order: “IT IS ORDERED that Petitioner’s petition is denied.”

Next Steps: The decision is binding on the parties. A party may file a request for a rehearing with the Commissioner of the Department of Real Estate within 30 days of the service of the order, pursuant to A.R.S. § 32-2199.04 and § 41-1092.09.

Study Guide: Glover v. Foothills Community Association (No. 19F-H1919046-REL)

This guide provides a comprehensive review of the Administrative Law Judge Decision in the case between Vicky Glover (Petitioner) and the Foothills Community Association (Respondent). It includes a quiz to test factual recall, essay questions for deeper analysis, and a glossary of key terms as defined and used within the source document.

Quiz: Short-Answer Questions

Instructions: Answer the following questions based on the provided legal decision. Each answer should be two to three sentences long.

1. Who were the primary parties involved in this case and what were their respective roles?

2. What were the two specific violations of state statutes that the Petitioner alleged?

3. Describe the composition and meeting schedules of the Board of Directors and the Design Review Committee (DRC).

4. What specific action did the Petitioner take during the DRC meetings on December 13, 2018, and January 9, 2019?

5. According to the decision, what was the DRC’s practice regarding decisions made via email between meetings?

6. What is the standard of proof the Petitioner was required to meet, and how does the decision define it?

7. How did the Administrative Law Judge interpret the statutory phrase “an appropriate time” for a member to speak during a committee meeting?

8. Why did the Judge conclude that the DRC’s email communications did not violate the open meeting requirements of A.R.S. § 33-1804?

9. What was the final ruling, or Order, issued by the Administrative Law Judge in this case?

10. What recourse did the parties have if they disagreed with the Judge’s order?

Answer Key

1. The primary parties were Vicky Glover, the Petitioner who filed the complaint, and the Foothills Community Association (FCA), the Respondent homeowners association. The case was heard by Administrative Law Judge Tammy L. Eigenheer in the Office of Administrative Hearings.

2. The Petitioner alleged that the Respondent violated state statutes by holding unannounced email meetings to vote on non-emergency matters. She also alleged that the Respondent would not allow community members to speak at appropriate times during Design Review Committee (DRC) meetings.

3. The Board of Directors has seven members and meets at 6:00 p.m. on the fourth Wednesday of the month. The Design Review Committee (DRC) is appointed by the Board, has five members (two of whom are also on the Board), and meets at 2:00 p.m. on the second Wednesday of the month.

4. During the DRC meetings on December 13, 2018, and January 9, 2019, the Petitioner attended and recorded the proceedings. She was not allowed to speak on other members’ pending requests during these meetings.

5. The DRC would gather additional information via email after a meeting and members would then approve or deny the request via email. Any decisions made via email between DRC meetings were then “ratified” at the next formal DRC meeting.

6. The Petitioner had the burden of proving her case by a “preponderance of the evidence.” The decision defines this as evidence that is of greater weight or more convincing than the opposing evidence, showing the fact sought to be proved is more probable than not.

7. The Judge determined that the statute does not define what constitutes “an appropriate time” to speak at a committee meeting. Therefore, it was reasonable for the DRC to decide that the deliberation regarding a different member’s request was not an appropriate time for the Petitioner to speak.

8. The Judge concluded that email communications are not “regularly scheduled committee meetings” because they do not occur at a set time on a weekly, monthly, quarterly, or annual basis. Since A.R.S. § 33-1804 only requires regularly scheduled committee meetings to be open, the email discussions were not a violation.

9. The final Order was that the Petitioner’s petition is denied. The Administrative Law Judge concluded that the Petitioner did not establish any violation of A.R.S. § 33-1804.

10. Pursuant to A.R.S. §32-2199.02(B), the order is binding unless a rehearing is granted. A request for a rehearing must be filed with the Commissioner of the Department of Real Estate within 30 days of the service of the Order.

Essay Questions

Instructions: The following questions are designed for longer-form essay responses to encourage a deeper synthesis of the case details and legal reasoning. Answers are not provided.

1. Analyze the Administrative Law Judge’s statutory construction of A.R.S. § 33-1804. How does the judge distinguish between the open meeting requirements for Board of Directors meetings versus committee meetings, and what role does the “plain language” of the statute play in this interpretation?

2. Discuss the two central allegations made by Vicky Glover. For each allegation, detail the undisputed facts of the events and explain the specific legal reasoning the judge used to conclude that no statutory violation occurred.

3. Examine the conflict between the state’s declared policy in favor of open meetings (A.R.S. § 33-1804(F)) and the specific statutory language governing committee meetings (A.R.S. § 33-1804(A)). How did the judge resolve this apparent conflict in her final decision?

4. Based on the “Findings of Fact,” describe the operational procedures of the Design Review Committee, including its use of email for decision-making and subsequent ratification. How did these procedures become central to the legal dispute?

5. Explain the concept of “burden of proof” as it applied in this case. How did the standard of “preponderance of the evidence” shape the proceedings, and why was the Administrative Law Judge’s conclusion that the Petitioner “did not establish” a violation critical to the final order?

Glossary of Key Terms

Definition from Source Context

Administrative Law Judge

Tammy L. Eigenheer, the judge who presided over the hearing and issued the decision in this case.

A.R.S. § 33-1804

The Arizona Revised Statute that the Petitioner alleged was violated. It governs open meetings for planned communities, including member associations, boards of directors, and regularly scheduled committees.

Arizona Department of Real Estate (Department)

The state agency with which the Petitioner filed her petition and which has jurisdiction to hear disputes between property owners and condominium owners associations.

Board of Directors

The governing body of the Foothills Community Association, comprised of seven members. It appoints the Design Review Committee.

Design Review Committee (DRC)

A five-member committee appointed by the Board of Directors. Two of its members are also on the Board. The DRC’s meetings were the subject of the Petitioner’s complaint.

Foothills Community Association (FCA)

The Respondent in the case. An association of homeowners located in Phoenix, Arizona.

Petitioner

Vicky Glover, who filed a petition on January 23, 2019, with the Arizona Department of Real Estate against the Foothills Community Association.

Preponderance of the evidence

The burden of proof required of the Petitioner. It is defined as “Evidence which is of greater weight or more convincing than the evidence which is offered in opposition to it; that is, evidence which as a whole shows that the fact sought to be proved is more probable than not.”

Ratified

The term used to describe the process where decisions made by the DRC via email between meetings were formally approved at the next DRC meeting.

Regularly scheduled committee meetings

The specific type of meeting subject to the open meeting requirements of A.R.S. § 33-1804. The Judge concluded that email communications do not meet this definition as they do not occur at a set time.

Respondent

The Foothills Community Association (FCA), against which the petition was filed. Represented in the hearing by B. Austin Baillio.

Statutory Construction

The process of interpreting a statute. The primary goal is to ascertain the legislature’s intent, first by looking at the plain text of the statute.

3 Shocking Loopholes in HOA ‘Open Meeting’ Laws This Homeowner Discovered the Hard Way

Introduction: The Illusion of Transparency

For anyone living in a homeowner’s association (HOA), there’s a fundamental expectation: the business of the community is conducted in the open. We assume that as members, we have a right to attend meetings, understand the decisions being made, and voice our opinions before our board takes action.

But a startling court decision from an Arizona Administrative Law Judge throws a wrench in that assumption. One homeowner’s legal challenge against her association didn’t just fail—it inadvertently created a roadmap for how HOAs can legally operate behind closed doors, affecting millions of residents in planned communities.

This article will break down the three most counter-intuitive takeaways from this legal battle, revealing how the specific wording of the law can create major gaps in transparency and challenge everything you thought you knew about your rights as a homeowner.

1. Your Right to Speak is Weaker Than You Think—Especially in Committee Meetings

Most homeowners believe they have a protected right to speak on any agenda item at any official HOA meeting. The case of petitioner Vicky Glover shows this is a dangerous assumption.

On December 13, 2018, and January 9, 2019, Ms. Glover attended meetings of her community’s Design Review Committee (DRC) and was not permitted to speak about other members’ pending architectural requests. She argued this violated Arizona’s open meeting law for planned communities (A.R.S. § 33-1804).

The Administrative Law Judge (ALJ), however, pointed out a critical distinction in the law’s text. The statute explicitly guarantees a member the right “to speak once after the board has discussed a specific agenda item but before the board takes formal action.” This specific right, the ALJ concluded, applies only to meetings of the Board of Directors.

For committee meetings, the law sets a much vaguer standard, requiring only that members “be permitted to attend and speak at an appropriate time.” The ALJ found it was reasonable for the DRC to decide that having Ms. Glover speak on another member’s application was not an “appropriate time.”

This is a crucial distinction because committees—like architectural, design, or finance committees—often make the decisions that most directly impact homeowners’ property and daily lives. Yet, this ruling clarifies that the guaranteed right to be heard before a vote is taken is significantly weaker in those very forums.

2. “Email Meetings” Can Be a Legal Way to Sidestep Open Meeting Rules

The common understanding of open meeting laws is that they exist to prevent boards and committees from deliberating and making decisions in private. But what if the meeting doesn’t happen in a room, but in an email chain?

Ms. Glover’s second claim was that the DRC was conducting business and making decisions via email between its official meetings. Evidence showed that after a meeting, additional information would be shared with committee members who could then “approve or deny the request… via email.” The association’s manager, Pat Wontor, denied this, claiming emails were only used to gather information on matters already discussed in a meeting.

The ALJ’s conclusion on this matter was stunning and sidestepped the conflicting testimony entirely. The Arizona open meeting law in question only applies to “regularly scheduled committee meetings.” Because email exchanges do not occur at a set, scheduled time—like the second Wednesday of the month—the judge ruled they do not fall under the open meeting requirements of the statute, regardless of their content.

The implication of this loophole is profound. It allows a committee to conduct significant deliberation and decision-making entirely outside of public view. This practice can turn the open meeting into a hollow formality. A committee can present a “done deal” for public ratification, rendering the member’s right to observe and speak effectively meaningless. The public meeting becomes a theatrical rubber stamp for a decision already made in secret.

3. The “Spirit of the Law” Doesn’t Beat the Letter of the Law

Many laws contain a policy statement that outlines their overarching goal—the “spirit of the law.” Arizona’s statute on HOA meetings has an exceptionally strong one, stating that all meetings should be open and that the law should be interpreted to favor transparency. The text explicitly declares:

“It is the policy of this state as reflected in this section that all meetings of a planned community… be conducted openly… and shall construe any provision of this section in favor of open meetings.” (from A.R.S. § 33-1804(F))

Ms. Glover and many homeowners would read this and assume it guarantees broad transparency. The ALJ, however, ruled that this powerful policy statement “does not override the specific provisions” of the law.

In other words, the literal, specific text—like the distinction between “board” and “committee” meetings, or the “regularly scheduled” requirement—takes precedence over the law’s general intent.

This is perhaps the most important lesson for all homeowners. Relying on the assumed purpose or “spirit” of a rule is not enough. In a legal dispute, the precise, technical wording is what matters most. It highlights the critical importance for homeowners to read and understand the exact text of state statutes and their own governing documents, because the loopholes are often found in the fine print.

Conclusion: Knowledge is Your Best Defense

While Vicky Glover lost her petition, her case provides an invaluable education for every member of a community association. It is a stark warning that transparency in an HOA is not a guaranteed principle but a legal standard with specific, and at times counter-intuitive, boundaries that can be exploited.

The loopholes her case exposed reveal a sobering reality: your right to speak is conditional, “meetings” can legally occur out of sight in an email chain, and the stated “spirit” of the law can be rendered toothless by its literal text. HOA governance is not guided by general principles of fairness, but by very specific legal language.

Given these loopholes, it’s worth asking: How many of the most important decisions in your community are happening in an inbox instead of the boardroom?

Case Participants

Petitioner Side

  • Vicky Glover (petitioner)

Respondent Side

  • B. Austin Baillio (respondent attorney)
    Maxwell & Morgan, P.C.
  • Pat Wontor (manager)
    Manager for DRC/Foothills Community Association

Neutral Parties

  • Tammy L. Eigenheer (ALJ)
  • Judy Lowe (Commissioner)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate

Other Participants

  • Del Sol (staff/clerk)
    Transmitting staff