The Gregory M and Donna P Hulbert Family Trust dated May 25, 1995 v.

Case Summary

Case ID 24F-H049-REL
Agency ADRE
Tribunal OAH
Decision Date 2025-01-21
Administrative Law Judge Samuel Fox
Outcome partial
Filing Fees Refunded $2,500.00
Civil Penalties $500.00

Parties & Counsel

Petitioner The Gregory M and Donna P Hulbert Family Trust dated May 25, 1995 Counsel
Respondent The Summit at Copper Square Condominium Association Counsel Daryl Wilson

Alleged Violations

Condominium Declaration 7.1, 7.12, 7.14
Condominium Declaration 4.6.1, 4.6.2
Condominium Declaration 3.3.1, 3.3.2, 4.13
A.R.S. § 33-1248(E), A.R.S. § 33-1248(F)
Condominium Declaration 5.1

Outcome Summary

The ALJ ruled in favor of the Petitioner on the issues regarding the 'puppy potty' structure and the open meeting and agenda notice requirements, ordering compliance, a $1,000 filing fee refund, and a $500 civil penalty. The ALJ ruled in favor of the Respondent on the issues regarding budget and reserve funding, the news crew presence, and the structural repair timeline, finding no violations on those matters.

Why this result: Petitioner lost three issues because the board acted within its discretion on budgeting, the news crew was not proven to be an actionable nuisance, and the board was adequately following expert advice on structural repairs despite the slow timeline.

Key Issues & Findings

Inadequate Budget and Reserve Funding

Petitioner alleged the HOA borrowed money from reserves for operating expenses and failed to adequately fund reserves due to an inadequate budget.

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: No

Disposition: respondent_win

Cited:

  • Declaration 7.1
  • Declaration 7.12
  • Declaration 7.14

Puppy Potty on Common Elements

Petitioner alleged the HOA installed a puppy potty on the common elements roof area, constituting a nuisance and violating pet restrictions.

Orders: Respondent directed to comply with community documents going forward. Assessed a civil penalty of $500.

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: Yes, Civil penalty: $500.00

Disposition: petitioner_win

Cited:

  • Declaration 4.6.1
  • Declaration 4.6.2

News Crew in Common Area

Petitioner alleged the HOA allowed a news crew to use the common area, violating quiet enjoyment and acting as an annoyance or nuisance.

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: No

Disposition: respondent_win

Cited:

  • Declaration 3.3.1
  • Declaration 3.3.2
  • Declaration 4.13

Failure to Provide Meeting Notice and Agendas

Petitioner alleged the HOA failed to provide required notice for executive sessions and failed to provide adequate information on agendas to allow meaningful evaluation.

Orders: Respondent directed to comply with the requirements of A.R.S. § 33-1248 and its Community Documents going forward.

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: Yes

Disposition: petitioner_win

Cited:

  • A.R.S. § 33-1248(E)
  • A.R.S. § 33-1248(F)

Failure to Repair Structural Damage

Petitioner alleged the HOA failed to expediently maintain, repair, and replace structural damage resulting from a pool leak to the garage ceiling.

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: No

Disposition: respondent_win

Cited:

  • Declaration 5.1

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Briefing Doc – 24F-H049-REL


Briefing on Hulbert Family Trust v. The Summit at Copper Square Condominium Association

Executive Summary

This briefing document synthesizes the key arguments, evidence, and conclusions from the administrative hearing concerning the consolidated matters The Gregory M and Donna P Hulbert Family Trust v. The Summit at Copper Square Condominium Association (Case Nos. 24F-H049-REL & 24F-H055-REL). The hearing, adjudicated by Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) Samuel Fox, addressed five distinct complaints filed by Petitioner Donna Hulbert against the Respondent Homeowners Association (HOA) Board of Directors.

The core of the dispute revolved around the Petitioner’s allegations that the HOA Board acted in violation of the Condominium Declaration and Arizona state law regarding its financial management, use of common areas, meeting procedures, and timeliness of structural repairs. The Respondent contended that its actions fell within the Board’s discretionary authority and were reasonable under the circumstances.

The ALJ’s final decision delivered a split verdict. The Petitioner prevailed on two claims: the installation of a “puppy potty” on the roof was found to be a clear violation of the Declaration’s rules on pets in common areas, and the Board’s meeting agendas were found to be statutorily deficient. The Respondent prevailed on three claims: the ALJ found no violation in the Board’s budget and reserve management, its decision to allow a news crew on common property, or the pace of its response to structural damage from a pool leak. The final order required the HOA to pay a portion of the Petitioner’s filing fees, levied a civil penalty for the “puppy potty” violation, and directed the Board to comply with state law regarding meeting notices.

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Procedural History and Key Parties

Parties:

Petitioner: The Gregory M and Donna P Hulbert Family Trust, represented by Donna Hulbert, owner of Unit 1302.

Respondent: The Summit at Copper Square Condominium Association, represented by Attorney Daryl Wilson.

Venue: Arizona Office of Administrative Hearings.

Case Numbers: 24F-H049-REL and 24F-H055-REL, consolidated on August 21, 2024, under 24F-H049-REL.

Presiding Judge: Administrative Law Judge Samuel Fox.

Hearing Dates: August 28, 2024, and October 24, 2024.

Key Witnesses:

For Petitioner: Donna Hulbert; Jay Parry Erb (former Board Treasurer).

For Respondent: Greg Axelrod (current Board President); Zackary Beckham (former Board President).

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Analysis of Complaints and Adjudication

Complaint 1: Budget and Reserve Funding

Allegation: The HOA violated Declaration Sections 7.1, 7.12, and 7.14 by borrowing from reserves to fund operating expenses and failing to create a budget that adequately funded reserves for future expenses.

Petitioner’s Arguments & Evidence

Respondent’s Arguments & Evidence

ALJ’s Findings & Conclusion

The HOA’s budget is structurally inadequate, evidenced by a history of borrowing from reserves (~$400,000 in 2023) to cover operating shortfalls.

The Board has sole discretion over the budget. The budgets for 2023 and 2024 met operating expenses and did not have a shortfall.

No Violation Found.

The 2024 budget was improperly based on the overrun 2023 budget figures plus a 7.5% increase, rather than on actual historical expenses.

The Association has met its budgeted contributions to the reserve fund and is not currently borrowing from reserves to pay operating expenses.

The Declaration requires a reasonable estimate for the budget, not a perfect one. It does not mandate that the budget reflect the reserve study or past unexpected expenses.

Operating expenses (e.g., pool leak testing, security fob installation) are being misclassified as reserve expenses to conceal operating deficits.

The Board relies on the professional guidance of its management company, First Service Residential, and its accountants for financial reporting and budget creation.

As of July 2024, the budget had a surplus, and monthly reserve contributions (45,365avg.)exceededthereservestudy′srecommendation(45,000).

The operating account is funded at 0.3 times monthly expenses, far below the management company’s recommendation of 3 times.

The Board fulfilled its obligation to adopt a budget containing an estimate of required funds. The Petitioner failed to prove otherwise by a preponderance of the evidence.

Outcome: Respondent deemed the prevailing party on this issue.

The HOA has a history of delaying payments to vendors (e.g., an RKS Plumbing invoice was paid seven months late), indicating cash flow issues.

Witness Jay Erb (former Treasurer): Testified to discovering a ~$392,000 deficit in the operating fund being covered by reserves upon joining the Board. He stated that these transfers lacked the two board member signatures required by Declaration Section 7.14.1 for reserve withdrawals.

Complaint 2: The “Puppy Potty”

Allegation: The HOA installed a “puppy potty” on the roof, a common element, in violation of Declaration Sections 4.6.1 and 4.6.2, constituting a nuisance.

Petitioner’s Arguments & Evidence

Respondent’s Arguments & Evidence

ALJ’s Findings & Conclusion

Declaration Section 4.6.2 constitutes an “absolute prohibition” against pets on common elements, except for ingress and egress through the service elevator.

Board President Greg Axelrod testified the installation was not an official Board action but was proposed by the general manager.

Violation Found.

The roof is defined as a “Common Element” under Declaration Section 1.12 (“all portions of the Condominium other than the Units”).

Mr. Axelrod argued the roof was not a common element in practice, as the door leading to it had always been locked and the area was unused by residents.

The roof area is part of the Common Elements by the Declaration’s explicit definition, regardless of its previous accessibility.

The “puppy potty” is a “structure for the care…of any Permitted Pet” which is explicitly forbidden on any portion of the Common Elements.

The potty was installed as an amenity for residents, particularly for the safety of women walking their dogs late at night in downtown Phoenix. It cost only 600−700.

The puppy potty is a structure for the care of pets, which is prohibited on Common Elements under Section 4.6.2.

The installation creates an odor and presents a safety hazard, as it requires an industrial roof area with unenclosed openings to be accessible.

The area is cleaned by maintenance staff at least three times per week. Most residents appreciate the amenity.

The installation of the puppy potty violates Section 4.6.2 of the Declaration.

The decision was made unilaterally by the Board President without a formal board meeting or vote.

Outcome: Petitioner deemed the prevailing party. A $500 civil penalty was levied against the Respondent.

Complaint 3: News Crew on Common Area

Allegation: The HOA allowed a news crew to use the common area during the 2023 baseball postseason, violating residents’ easement of enjoyment (Sections 3.3.1, 3.3.2) and creating a nuisance (Section 4.13).

Petitioner’s Arguments & Evidence

Respondent’s Arguments & Evidence

ALJ’s Findings & Conclusion

The easement of enjoyment in common elements is for owners and their guests. The news crew members were “strangers.”

The news crews were on the property twice: for the Diamondbacks’ opening day and for the World Series.

No Violation Found.

The crew created a nuisance with bright lights shining into units and a drone camera. At times, the crew was unsupervised.

The crew was present during a larger HOA-hosted party on the fifth-floor pool deck and was confined to a specific, underutilized area within the party.

The Declaration allows for invitees, guests, and their agents (Section 13.12). The news crew was invited to the party.

The action violated residents’ right to quiet enjoyment. A single board member approved the crew’s presence without a formal board action or recorded easement.

Having the news crew on-site provided a benefit to the Association by giving positive public exposure to the building.

The evidence did not establish that the lights and noise were unreasonable under the circumstances of a large party occurring above a public block party. The Petitioner failed to prove the drone belonged to the news crew.

The crew’s presence did not fall under any exception in the Declaration.

The crew did not displace any resident from using the area. No easement was conveyed or encumbered.

The Petitioner failed to meet the burden of proof to demonstrate the news crew was a nuisance or that any resident was deprived of their easement of enjoyment.

Outcome: Respondent deemed the prevailing party on this issue.

Complaint 4: Meeting Notices and Agendas

Allegation: The HOA fails to provide required notice for all quorum meetings and provides agendas with inadequate information, violating A.R.S. § 33-1248 (E) and (F).

Petitioner’s Arguments & Evidence

Respondent’s Arguments & Evidence

ALJ’s Findings & Conclusion

A.R.S. § 33-1248 requires open meetings and agendas with information “reasonably necessary to inform the unit owners of the matters to be discussed or decided.”

All topics the Board intends to discuss are included on the agendas, which are posted and emailed at least 48 hours in advance.

Violation Found.

Agendas are often vague, using terms like “Old Business” or “New Business,” which prevents homeowners from meaningfully preparing comments.

Board President Axelrod testified that if an urgent, non-emergency topic arises within 48 hours of a meeting, it may be added, but this has only happened once.

A.R.S. § 33-1248(F) reflects a state policy in favor of open meetings and reasonably informative agendas.

The Petitioner cited a May 29th meeting where a $33,000 expenditure for patio furniture was discussed and approved under a vague agenda item, without prior notice to homeowners.

Regarding executive sessions, Mr. Axelrod testified they are held only for permissible topics (legal, financial, employee matters) and are properly noticed.

The preponderance of evidence established that on at least one occasion, the Board failed to include a non-emergency topic on its agenda, leaving owners uninformed.

The Board holds executive sessions before open meetings without providing an agenda detailing the specific closed items being discussed.

Mr. Axelrod admitted that during his first one or two meetings as president, he may have discussed impermissible topics in executive session out of ignorance, but this was corrected.

Evidence also supported that on at least one occasion, the Board discussed inappropriate topics in an executive session.

Outcome: Petitioner deemed the prevailing party. The HOA was ordered to comply with A.R.S. § 33-1248.

Complaint 5: Structural Damage Repair

Allegation: The HOA violated its duty under Declaration Section 5.1 to “maintain, repair and replace all Common Elements” by failing to act expediently to repair structural damage from a pool leak.

Petitioner’s Arguments & Evidence

Respondent’s Arguments & Evidence

ALJ’s Findings & Conclusion

The HOA has demonstrated a history of slow response to a significant structural issue. Water leaks and cracks in the 4th-floor garage ceiling were noted as early as January 2020.

The Board has sole discretion over the “appropriate maintenance, repair, and replacement” of common elements.

No Violation Found.

Despite a March 2023 report (Rowley & Reynolds) and an April 2024 report (Gervasio) confirming ongoing damage and recommending destructive investigation, progress has been slow.

The Board has been following the recommendations of its hired experts. The first necessary step was locating the source of the leak, which was difficult and took time.

The Declaration requires the Board to maintain elements in “good condition and repair.” The Board’s discretion is the sole judge of what is appropriate.

The Petitioner believes the filing of the petition was the primary catalyst for the Board to finally take concrete action (destructive testing).

After the leak was fixed, the Board hired Gervasio to proceed with the next step, which was destructive testing.

The Board, if slowly, followed the recommendations of its experts.

The ongoing delay constitutes a failure of the Board’s duty to maintain the property.

The Board is actively addressing the issue. Mr. Axelrod testified that there was no indication of any immediate danger to the structure.

The Petitioner’s dissatisfaction with the pace of the action is not sufficient to prove that the Board failed to comply with the requirements of the Declaration.

Outcome: Respondent deemed the prevailing party on this issue.

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Final Order

The Administrative Law Judge issued the following orders on January 21, 2025:

1. Prevailing Parties: The Petitioner was deemed the prevailing party on Issues 2 (Puppy Potty) and 4 (Meetings/Notice). The Respondent was deemed the prevailing party on Issues 1 (Budget), 3 (News Crew), and 5 (Structural Damage).

2. Filing Fee Reimbursement: Respondent was ordered to pay Petitioner $1,000 for the filing fee within 30 days.

3. Compliance Order: Respondent was directed to comply with the requirements of A.R.S. § 33-1248 and its Community Documents going forward.

4. Civil Penalty: A civil penalty of $500 was levied against the Respondent for the violation related to the “puppy potty” (Issue 2).






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Case Participants

Petitioner Side

  • Donna Hulbert (petitioner)
    The Gregory M and Donna P Hulbert Family Trust dated May 25, 1995
    Trustee and representative of Petitioner; also testified as a witness.
  • Jay Parry Erb (witness)
    Former Board Treasurer (April 2023 – August 2023).
  • Debbie Goodwin (witness)
    Prior board member and financial professional consulted by Mr. Erb.

Respondent Side

  • Daryl Wilson (HOA attorney)
    Gordon Rees
  • Greg Axelrod (board member)
    The Summit at Copper Square Condominium Association
    Current Board President as of hearing.
  • Zackary Beckham (board member)
    The Summit at Copper Square Condominium Association
    Former Board President.
  • Christy Woodruff (board member)
    The Summit at Copper Square Condominium Association
  • Mr. Grodier (board member)
    The Summit at Copper Square Condominium Association
  • Dana Knight (board member)
    The Summit at Copper Square Condominium Association
    Newest board member.

Neutral Parties

  • Samuel Fox (ALJ)
    OAH
  • Susan Nicolson (ADRE Commissioner)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
  • Felicia Del Sol (ALJ)
    OAH
    Signed continuance order.

Other Participants

  • Brad Palmer (property manager)
    First Service Residential
    Former General Manager.
  • Dan Harvey (property manager)
    First Service Residential
    General Manager.
  • Kimberly Greenland (property manager)
    First Service Financial
    Financial Controller.
  • Carla Chung (property manager)
    First Service Financial
    Senior VP of Cash Management and Lending.
  • Angelica Romero (property manager)
    HOA Management
    Assistant General Manager.
  • Ward Holland (witness)
    Gervasio & Assoc., Inc. Consulting Engineers
    Engineer/Architect who performed inspections.
  • Jack Gordon (witness)
    Gervasio & Assoc., Inc. Consulting Engineers
    Engineer who performed inspections.
  • Frank Derso (property manager)
    HOA Management
    Manager/Supervisor mentioned regarding easement claims.
  • Holly (property manager)
    First Service Residential
    Mid-level manager.
  • Hal (committee member)
    Resident involved in budget committee.
  • Scott McCain (committee member)
    Resident involved in budget committee.
  • Tony Carro (engineer)
    Building engineer/staff.
  • Keith (engineer)
    Building engineer/staff.

The Gregory M and Donna P Hulbert Family Trust dated May 25, 1995 v.

Case Summary

Case ID 24F-H049-REL
Agency ADRE
Tribunal OAH
Decision Date 2025-01-21
Administrative Law Judge Samuel Fox
Outcome partial
Filing Fees Refunded $2,500.00
Civil Penalties $500.00

Parties & Counsel

Petitioner The Gregory M and Donna P Hulbert Family Trust dated May 25, 1995 Counsel
Respondent The Summit at Copper Square Condominium Association Counsel Daryl Wilson

Alleged Violations

Condominium Declaration 7.1, 7.12, 7.14
Condominium Declaration 4.6.1, 4.6.2
Condominium Declaration 3.3.1, 3.3.2, 4.13
A.R.S. § 33-1248(E), A.R.S. § 33-1248(F)
Condominium Declaration 5.1

Outcome Summary

The ALJ ruled in favor of the Petitioner on the issues regarding the 'puppy potty' structure and the open meeting and agenda notice requirements, ordering compliance, a $1,000 filing fee refund, and a $500 civil penalty. The ALJ ruled in favor of the Respondent on the issues regarding budget and reserve funding, the news crew presence, and the structural repair timeline, finding no violations on those matters.

Why this result: Petitioner lost three issues because the board acted within its discretion on budgeting, the news crew was not proven to be an actionable nuisance, and the board was adequately following expert advice on structural repairs despite the slow timeline.

Key Issues & Findings

Inadequate Budget and Reserve Funding

Petitioner alleged the HOA borrowed money from reserves for operating expenses and failed to adequately fund reserves due to an inadequate budget.

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: No

Disposition: respondent_win

Cited:

  • Declaration 7.1
  • Declaration 7.12
  • Declaration 7.14

Puppy Potty on Common Elements

Petitioner alleged the HOA installed a puppy potty on the common elements roof area, constituting a nuisance and violating pet restrictions.

Orders: Respondent directed to comply with community documents going forward. Assessed a civil penalty of $500.

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: Yes, Civil penalty: $500.00

Disposition: petitioner_win

Cited:

  • Declaration 4.6.1
  • Declaration 4.6.2

News Crew in Common Area

Petitioner alleged the HOA allowed a news crew to use the common area, violating quiet enjoyment and acting as an annoyance or nuisance.

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: No

Disposition: respondent_win

Cited:

  • Declaration 3.3.1
  • Declaration 3.3.2
  • Declaration 4.13

Failure to Provide Meeting Notice and Agendas

Petitioner alleged the HOA failed to provide required notice for executive sessions and failed to provide adequate information on agendas to allow meaningful evaluation.

Orders: Respondent directed to comply with the requirements of A.R.S. § 33-1248 and its Community Documents going forward.

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: Yes

Disposition: petitioner_win

Cited:

  • A.R.S. § 33-1248(E)
  • A.R.S. § 33-1248(F)

Failure to Repair Structural Damage

Petitioner alleged the HOA failed to expediently maintain, repair, and replace structural damage resulting from a pool leak to the garage ceiling.

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: No

Disposition: respondent_win

Cited:

  • Declaration 5.1

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**Case Summary: 24F-H055-REL (Consolidated with 24F-H049-REL)**

**Parties:** The Gregory M and Donna P Hulbert Family Trust (Petitioner) v. The Summit at Copper Square Condominium Association (Respondent).
**Tribunal:** Arizona Office of Administrative Hearings, presided by Administrative Law Judge Samuel Fox.

**Key Facts & Main Issues:**
The Petitioner, a unit owner at The Summit at Copper Square, filed a petition against the Condominium Association alleging multiple violations of the Association's Declaration (CC&Rs) and Arizona Revised Statutes (A.R.S.) relating to financial mismanagement, unauthorized use of common elements, meeting notice procedures, and failure to repair structural damage.

The hearing centered on five core legal issues:
1. **Budget and Reserve Funding:** Petitioner alleged the HOA improperly used reserve funds for operating expenses and failed to adequately fund reserves. Respondent argued the Board exercised proper discretion, relied on property management experts, and successfully maintained a budget surplus in 2024.
2. **"Puppy Potty" Installation:** Petitioner argued the HOA's installation of a dog relief area on the roof (a common element) violated Declaration provisions restricting pets and pet structures in common areas. Respondent countered that the roof was previously an unused, locked area and the installation was a community amenity.
3. **News Crew on Common Elements:** Petitioner alleged the HOA violated residents' easement of quiet enjoyment by allowing a news crew into common areas to cover the 2023 baseball postseason. Respondent argued the crew was invited to an HOA pool party and caused no unreasonable annoyance.
4. **Meeting Notice and Agendas:** Petitioner alleged the HOA held executive sessions without proper notice and provided insufficient agendas for open meetings, violating A.R.S. § 33-1248. Respondent claimed agendas were properly posted and executive sessions were limited to permissible topics.
5. **Structural Repairs:** Petitioner alleged the HOA violated its duty to maintain common elements by delaying repairs to structural cracking and water leaks in the parking garage and pool. Respondent countered that it was actively relying on and following the step-by-step recommendations of hired structural engineers.

**Outcome and Final Decision:**
The Administrative Law Judge issued a split decision.

**Petitioner prevailed on Issues 2 and 4:**
* The ALJ

Case Participants

Petitioner Side

  • Donna Hulbert (petitioner)
    The Gregory M and Donna P Hulbert Family Trust dated May 25, 1995
    Trustee and homeowner representing the trust.
  • Jay Parry Erb (witness)
    Former HOA Board Member
    Former treasurer of the HOA board, called to testify on behalf of the petitioner.

Respondent Side

  • Daryl Wilson (HOA attorney)
    Gordon Rees
    Attorney representing the respondent, The Summit at Copper Square Condominium Association.
  • Greg Axelrod (board member)
    HOA Board of Directors
    Current HOA board president who testified on behalf of the respondent.
  • Zachary Beckham (witness)
    Former HOA Board President
    Former HOA board president, testified on behalf of the respondent.
  • Tony Carro (board member)
    HOA Board of Directors
    HOA board member and engineer mentioned in testimony.
  • Christy Woodruff (board member)
    HOA Board of Directors
    HOA board member.
  • Grodier (board member)
    HOA Board of Directors
    HOA board member mentioned by the petitioner.
  • Bartquez (board member)
    HOA Board of Directors
    HOA board member mentioned by the petitioner.
  • Dana Knight (board member)
    HOA Board of Directors
    Newest HOA board member mentioned in testimony.

Neutral Parties

  • Samuel Fox (ALJ)
    Office of Administrative Hearings
    Administrative Law Judge presiding over the hearing and author of the decision.
  • Felicia Del Sol (ALJ)
    Office of Administrative Hearings
    Administrative Law Judge who signed an order granting continuance.
  • Brad Palmer (property manager)
    First Service Residential
    Former general manager for the property.
  • Dan Harvey (property manager)
    First Service Residential
    Current general manager for the property.
  • Kimberly Greenland (financial controller)
    First Service Residential
    Financial controller for the management company.
  • Carla Chung (financial executive)
    First Service Financial
    Senior VP of cash management and lending at First Service.
  • Frank Derso (property management executive)
    First Service Residential
    Director of the urban high-rise division.
  • Angelica Romero (property manager)
    First Service Residential
    Assistant general manager.
  • Holly (property manager)
    First Service Residential
    Mid-level manager for First Service.
  • Keith (building engineer)
    HOA
    Building engineer who identified the area for the dog run.
  • Ward Holland (engineer)
    Gervasio & Assoc., Inc.
    Engineer who conducted structural inspections and reporting.
  • Jack Gordon (engineer)
    Gervasio & Assoc., Inc.
    Engineer who conducted subsequent structural testing and reporting.
  • Susan Nicolson (agency official)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate
    Commissioner of ADRE.

Other Participants

  • Debbie Goodwin (homeowner)
    Former HOA Board Member
    Homeowner with financial experience who attended budget meetings.
  • Scott McCain (committee member)
    HOA Budget Committee
    Resident who served on the budget committee.
  • Hal (committee member)
    HOA Budget Committee
    Resident who served on the budget committee.

Lisa Marx v. Tara Condominium Association

Case Summary

Case ID 24F-H054-REL
Agency ADRE
Tribunal OAH
Decision Date 2024-09-20
Administrative Law Judge Kay A. Abramsohn
Outcome partial
Filing Fees Refunded $1,000.00
Civil Penalties $0.00

Parties & Counsel

Petitioner Lisa Marx Counsel
Respondent Tara Condominium Association Counsel

Alleged Violations

A.R.S. § 33-1258(A)
A.R.S. § 33-1248 (A), (D), (E), and (F); and Tara CC&Rs Section 9(E)

Outcome Summary

Petitioner prevailed on the 'Records' issue (A.R.S. § 33-1258), resulting in a $500.00 filing fee reimbursement. Respondent prevailed on the 'Example 13' issue (A.R.S. § 33-1248 and CC&Rs § 9(E)).

Why this result: The Administrative Law Judge concluded that Petitioner failed to sustain her burden regarding the Open Meeting Law allegations, finding that TARA conducted meetings in compliance and the specific volunteer work referenced was not statutorily or contractually required to be placed on an agenda for formal action.

Key Issues & Findings

Records Access Violation

TARA failed to timely provide access to TARA HOA records it possessed, violating the ten business day fulfillment requirement for examination requests.

Orders: TARA was ordered to reimburse Petitioner $500.00.

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: Yes

Disposition: petitioner_win

Cited:

  • A.R.S. § 33-1258
  • A.R.S. § 33-1258(A)

Open Meeting Law Violation (Example 13)

Petitioner alleged open meeting violations concerning volunteer work and projects not placed on agendas or formally voted upon by the board (Example 13).

Orders: Petitioner's Petition was dismissed as to alleged violations of A.R.S. § 33-1248(A), (D), (E), and (F) and/or Tara CC&Rs Section 9(E).

Filing fee: $500.00, Fee refunded: No

Disposition: respondent_win

Cited:

  • A.R.S. § 33-1248(A)
  • A.R.S. § 33-1248(D)
  • A.R.S. § 33-1248(E)
  • A.R.S. § 33-1248(F)
  • Tara CC&Rs Section 9(E)

Analytics Highlights

Topics: HOA Records, Open Meeting Law, Partial Victory, Filing Fee Reimbursement, Condominium Association
Additional Citations:

  • A.R.S. § 32-2199
  • A.R.S. § 32-2199.01
  • A.R.S. § 32-2199.02
  • A.R.S. § 32-2199.04
  • A.R.S. § 32-2199.05
  • A.R.S. § 33-1248
  • A.R.S. § 33-1258
  • A.R.S. § 33-1801 et seq.
  • A.R.S. § 41-1092.09
  • Tara CC&Rs Section 9(E)

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Briefing Doc – 24F-H054-REL


Briefing Document: Marx v. Tara Condominium Association

Executive Summary

This document provides a comprehensive analysis of the administrative case Lisa Marx v. Tara Condominium Association (No. 24F-H054-REL), adjudicated by the Arizona Office of Administrative Hearings. The dispute centers on two primary allegations brought by homeowner and former board member Lisa Marx against the Tara Condominium Association (TARA): (1) violations of Arizona state law regarding access to association records, and (2) violations of the state’s Open Meeting Law.

The case culminated in a split decision by the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ). TARA was found to have violated A.R.S. § 33-1258 by failing to provide timely access to its financial and other records as requested by the petitioner. However, the petitioner failed to prove her second claim that TARA violated the open meeting provisions of A.R.S. § 33-1248 when board members and volunteers performed maintenance and repair projects on common areas without formal agenda items and board votes.

Consequently, the ALJ sustained the petition on the records violation and dismissed it on the open meeting violation. TARA was ordered to reimburse Ms. Marx $500, representing the filing fee for the single issue on which she prevailed. A subsequent request for rehearing filed by Ms. Marx was procedurally rejected for being submitted to the incorrect agency.

Case Background and Procedural History

Parties and Context

Petitioner: Lisa Marx, a homeowner in the Tara Condominium Association and a former board member who served in various capacities, including Secretary, Chairperson, and Vice-Chairperson, from 2021 until her resignation in January 2024.

Respondent: Tara Condominium Association (TARA), a 50-unit nonprofit management association, represented at the hearing by its Chairman, Mark Gottmann.

The dispute arose following a change in board leadership in early 2024, with Ms. Marx alleging the new board was operating without transparency and in violation of state statutes and the association’s governing documents.

Chronology of Key Events

Jan 2024

Lisa Marx resigns from the TARA board two weeks after being elected for a fourth term.

Feb 1, 2024

Mark Gottmann assumes the role of Chairman of the Board.

Feb–Apr 2024

Marx makes a series of five requests for association records, which are either partially or fully denied by the TARA board.

May 29, 2024

Marx files an HOA Dispute Process Petition with the Arizona Department of Real Estate, alleging two categories of violations and paying a 1,000filingfee(500 per issue).

Aug 8, 2024

TARA files an Amended Response, admitting to several of the alleged violations, offering to reimburse Marx’s $1,000 filing fee, and requesting that the hearing be vacated.

Aug 8, 2024

Marx files a reply rejecting the offer, stating that the “numerous” issues required “a ruling that is binding and definite” to “hopefully prevent further violations.”

Aug 16, 2024

The ALJ issues an order requiring Marx to narrow her petition to two specific issues, categorizing the five records-request instances as one “records” issue and requiring her to select one of the thirteen alleged open-meeting violations.

Aug 19, 2024

Marx selects “Example 13” from her petition as her second issue.

Aug 29, 2024

An administrative hearing is held before ALJ Kay A. Abramsohn.

Sep 20, 2024

The ALJ issues a final decision.

Sep 23, 2024

The ALJ issues a Minute Entry rejecting a request for rehearing filed by Marx, as it was sent to the Office of Administrative Hearings instead of the Commissioner of the Arizona Department of Real Estate.

Analysis of Disputed Issues and Testimony

The hearing focused on two central issues as narrowed by the ALJ’s order.

Issue 1: Access to Association Records (A.R.S. § 33-1258)

This issue consolidated five instances across multiple dates where Marx alleged she was improperly denied access to or provision of TARA’s records.

Petitioner’s Position (Lisa Marx):

• Marx testified that she made multiple written requests for documents including vouchers, contracts, financial reports (General Ledger, AP Distribution), architectural change forms, and violation letters.

• The board’s responses were statutorily invalid. For example, a February 22, 2024 response stated: “A member of the Association is entitled to see reasonable financial information only. A member does not have a right to see contracts entered into by the Board nor information concerning specific members. We respectfully refuse your request…” Another denial was based on her being “no longer a board member.”

• Marx argued this refusal to provide records blocks transparency, creates distrust, and prevents homeowners from ensuring the governing documents are being enforced impartially. She asserted that all requested documents, such as financial records and contracts related to common areas, are records homeowners are entitled to examine.

Respondent’s Position (Tara Condominium Association):

• Mark Gottmann testified that the board was new and that any mistakes were made out of “enthusiasm” and a desire to better the community, not malicious intent.

• He stated the board acted on advice from outside sources, including a trade association, which led them to believe they were “over-providing” documents compared to their CC&Rs, which only mandate semi-annual financial statements.

• TARA experienced delays in receiving financial reports from its management company, Colby, after it was acquired by another entity, which in turn delayed distribution to homeowners.

• Gottmann argued that some requested documents did not exist (e.g., contracts for volunteer work), while others were justifiably withheld because they contained private information about individual homeowners (e.g., violation letters, architectural change forms).

Issue 2: Open Meeting Law Violations (A.R.S. § 33-1248)

This issue centered on “Example 13” of the petition, which alleged the board undertook several projects without adhering to open meeting requirements.

Petitioner’s Position (Lisa Marx):

• Marx alleged that several projects were performed on common property without being included on a meeting agenda and without a formal vote by the board in an open meeting. These projects included:

◦ Board members spraying weeds.

◦ Board members digging up grass around trees and laying mulch.

◦ A board member refinishing wood shutters.

• She argued these actions violated A.R.S. § 33-1248 and TARA’s own CC&Rs (Section 9(E)), which states, “A majority vote of the Managers shall entitle the Board to carry out action on behalf of the owners of the units.”

• The failure to discuss these items in an open meeting denied members the right to provide input before the board took action on community property.

Respondent’s Position (Tara Condominium Association):

• Gottmann characterized the projects as ongoing operational responsibilities and good-faith efforts by volunteers to save the association money.

• The weed spraying was described as an “experiment” at no cost to TARA. The mulching was done with donated materials in response to a homeowner’s suggestion. The shutter repair was done by volunteers for a nominal cost of less than $150 for materials, which was within the monthly maintenance budget.

• He argued these were not formal actions requiring a board vote but were undertaken with an “enthusiasm and desire to make our community a better place.” TARA’s CC&Rs (Section 12, Part D) grant the board the power “to use and expend the assessments collected to maintain, care for, and preserve the common elements.”

Administrative Law Judge’s Decision and Order

The ALJ’s decision, issued on September 20, 2024, delivered a split verdict, finding for each party on one of the two core issues.

Finding on Records Violation (A.R.S. § 33-1258):

Verdict: TARA violated the statute.

Reasoning: The ALJ concluded that TARA failed to provide access to records it possessed within the statutorily required ten-day timeframe. While TARA had a potential defense for delays related to its management company and a valid reason to withhold records containing personal information of other members, the overall evidence demonstrated a failure to comply with the law.

Outcome: The petitioner was deemed the prevailing party on this issue.

Finding on Open Meeting Violation (A.R.S. § 33-1248):

Verdict: TARA did not violate the statute.

Reasoning: The ALJ found that the petitioner failed to sustain her burden of proof. The evidence showed that TARA conducted its formal meetings in compliance with open meeting laws, providing notice and agendas. The ALJ concluded there was “no evidence in the hearing record that… those work circumstances… were required by statute or the CC&Rs to be placed on a TARA agenda for discussion and/or for ‘formal action’ by the Board.”

Outcome: The respondent was deemed the prevailing party on this issue.

Final Order

Based on the findings, the ALJ issued the following orders:

1. Petitioner’s Petition is sustained as to the TARA violation of A.R.S. § 33-1258 (Records).

2. Petitioner’s Petition is dismissed as to the alleged violations by TARA of A.R.S. § 33-1248 (Open Meetings).

3. TARA is ordered to reimburse Petitioner in the amount of $500.00, representing the filing fee for the single successful claim.






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The tribunal may order the HOA to reimburse the portion of the fee related to the successful claim.”, “detailed_answer”: “In this case, the petitioner paid 1,000fortwoissues(500 per issue). Since the petitioner prevailed on the records issue but failed on the open meeting issue, the ALJ ordered the HOA to reimburse only $500.”, “alj_quote”: “IT IS ORDERED that TARA reimburse Petitioner in the amount of $500.00. … The Administrative Law Judge concludes TARA is the prevailing party regarding the ‘Example 13’ issue and Petitioner bears the filing fee on this issue.”, “legal_basis”: “A.R.S. § 32-2199.01”, “topic_tags”: [ “filing fees”, “dispute resolution”, “penalties” ] }, { “question”: “Does being a ‘new board’ or ‘learning the ropes’ excuse the HOA from following state laws?”, “short_answer”: “No. Ignorance of the law or being a new board is not a valid defense for violating statutes.”, “detailed_answer”: “The HOA argued they were a new board acting in the best interest of the community and learning better governing practices. The ALJ acknowledged this explanation but still ruled that the failure to provide records was a violation of state statute.”, “alj_quote”: “TARA explained that the Board was a new Board and, believing it was acting in the Board’s best interest, was in the process of learning the procedures for better governing practices. … the Administrative Law Judge concludes that TARA violated A.R.S. § 33-1258.”, “legal_basis”: “A.R.S. § 33-1258”, “topic_tags”: [ “board duties”, “legal compliance”, “defenses” ] } ] }


Case Participants

Petitioner Side

  • Lisa Marx (petitioner)
    Tara Condominium Association (Homeowner)
    Also former HOA Secretary, Vice-Chairperson, and Chairperson.
  • Brenda Spielder (observer)
    Tara Condominium Association (Member)
    Attended hearing with Petitioner.
  • Cynthia Poland (observer)
    Tara Condominium Association (Member)
    Attended hearing with Petitioner.

Respondent Side

  • Mark Gottmann (board member)
    Tara Condominium Association
    Chairman of the Board; represented Tara at the hearing.
  • Chandler W. Travis (HOA attorney)
    Travis Law Firm PLC
    Counsel for Tara Condominium Association until August 27, 2024.
  • Stephanie Bushart (board member)
    Tara Condominium Association
  • Tina Marie Shepherd (board member)
    Tara Condominium Association
    Resigned as Chairperson on January 31, 2024.
  • Dennis Anderson (board member)
    Tara Condominium Association
    Involved in volunteer work (weed spraying, trench digging, shutter refinishing).
  • Judy Rice (board member)
    Tara Condominium Association
    Treasurer and CPA.
  • Ted (board member)
    Tara Condominium Association
    Involved in volunteer trench work.
  • Nikki (volunteer)
    Tara Condominium Association
    Involved in volunteer shutter repair.

Neutral Parties

  • Kay A. Abramsohn (ALJ)
    Office of Administrative Hearings
  • Susan Nicolson (Commissioner)
    Arizona Department of Real Estate

Other Participants

  • Renee Snow (volunteer)
    Tara Condominium Association
    Volunteered for landscaping committee.